The word 'cure' baffles me. I can recover from alcoholism yet am never cured. I will be interested to hear what the book has to say about the word 'cure'. Always good to broaden the mind.

Cure? Haven't read it - not sure I believe there is a cure, as I've mentioend before if necessary I do believe in remission of the disease but cure no i don't believe int hat. I am firm believer that recovery is a lifetime maintenance program that goes through many phases to maintain long term sobriety.

Let us know what you think after the read!

Peace!

I'm sorry, but I just don't see how they can claim that they CURE alcoholism. It would seem to me that SOMEONE in the umpteen years would have come up with a cure before now! And all of a sudden some book comes out and tells us they can CURE us??? I don't think so.

So are they saying that once they've cured people, they can go back out and drink like "normals" again???

Afraid I'm a skeptic. If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

Who is the author? I have several that are similar in title.

By "cure" they don't mean you can ever drink like a "normal drinker" It's my understanding it "cures" the obsession at least in part and heals the bodies biology and brain chemistry damaged by years of excessive drinking.

Pretty intense programs, imo. Lots of willpower involved early on. I didn't really give their programs a chance. I opted to go the AA route.

I have read it. It's very good, but only works if you work it! lol! jk
the point is that you decide that you don't drink anymore and when you hear your addictive voice, you acknowledge it but do not act on it.
Very simple. You just decide to never drink again...and you don't.

wait a minute, sorry, that was the Rational Recovery synopsis...the Alcoholism and Addiction cure book is about Passages and their philosophy of getting to the root of why you drink thru a psychotherapist and fixing that problem. This book is like an advertisement for their expensive inpatient program and if you don't have the money for psychotherapy it may not be helpful.

Rational Recovery by Jack Trimpey

Lots 'n lots of more fun reading here:

http://www.laweekly.com/2008-06-26/news/buying-the-cure/5/

I don't have alot of respect for Chris P. Okay, I don't have any respect for Chris P. Now there still might be some good stuff in his book, I don't know, haven't read it; he just strikes me as a snake oil salesman. I do know there is no "cure" for alcoholism. The best/ only solution I have found is AA.

It has been my experience that these publications that offer "cures" are nothing but exploitive in nature. As is known alcohol and drugs are but a symptom of underlying issues. Once I acquired years of sobriety I discovered that the alcohol and drugs were no longer relevant concerns, they are now the least of my problems. I found that it was me, my perceptions of reality, my inability to cope with common everyday dilemmas and a shattered self concept. Change is an ongoing till death initiative that requires daily effort. It is not a path for the faint at heart. The result of this way of life is unimaginable and the rewards are beyond my wildest dreams, as they say into the fourth demension. Afeter 30 years I consider myself a novice, only scratching the surface.

I've seen the commercials for this with Chris Prentiss and I see lots of dollar signs involved. Especially with the Passages at Malibu.....

I hope that the book gives you some insight & can help you....without you having to fork out a lot of $$.

I am interested in hearing your thoughts, please post some thoughts after (or while) reading.

I already know the cure for addiction. It's called death. And until that day comes, all we can do is recover on a daily basis.

The problem is that the whole rehab industry is unregulated. It's all where the treatments for cancer and tuberculosis were a century ago, which is to say that it's open to every sort of quackery that come down the pike.

After eight grueling semesters of research methodology and statistical inference in college and graduate school, I have a myth-buster's ingrained skepticism about claims that would necessarily involve not only tracking down all the people who try these various methods, but extracting from them information that is universally regarded as private and confidential. Then there's this little problem that the population that would be under extended observation is comprised of people who are, by definition, chronic liars.

But even if that weren't the case, the success rates claimed by these rehabs are based on data that patient confidentiality laws actually prohibit the rehabs from disclosing in a way that can be
independently verified.

More on that here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/17/fashion/17rehab.html?pagewanted=print

From the article:

Mr. Califano of the national center on addiction, which focuses on research and public policy, said that the entire treatment system is run with a lack of professional standards that would be unacceptable in any other field of medicine. He has tried to get rehabilitation centers to give his group data to analyze their effectiveness. Objective analysis would require knowing everything that is done with that person in rehab, and following them for six months to a year, and do an actual urine or hair test, he said. No one lets us do that.

Tried them all and the only thing that i found to help me was AA. It seems to me I have read the books that offer the cure without the twelve steps and traditions and I found that they just paraphrased the AA program.
So once you are done paying for a cure, give AA a chance...it's free.

a few years ago there was this woman that had the answer. she could teach alcoholics to drink socially! But when she was busted for vechiluar manslaughter at .25, her program fell apart for some reason.
Beware the "easier , softer way"