i cahnged my dry date over pot...
kinda hard to have a "conscious " contact with God while stoned...

it was a personal decision for me though...
That was 16.5 yrs ago.. never looked back since

Fabulous topic. I'm dead on my feet tonight but will look in again tomorrow.

quickly though, I stopped weed in sobriety cos i wanted to find out who i really was. I been so watsed for so long over the years that I wanted to give sobriety my full attention. Spirituality at the end of a spliff wasn't what I wanted - it failed me in the past.

I might be a little harsh on the definition of sobriety. I think it is all mind altering drugs, so definitely weed. I also think nicotine and caffeine too. But there is a gradient on what is worse, alcohol REALLY bad, illegal drugs should go, but you can use tobacco and caffeine as a crutch. It's better than drinking/drugging. That's just MHO.

Take care,
Chili

You can probably read all the posts on, Should an addict go to AA. There was alot of that talk today!!!

I'm not a good one to talk to. In my experience alcohol can be so devastating when abused, for all who come in contact with the abuser. Potheads on the other hand, they are a pretty mellow group who are basically only harming themselves...of course, your roommate is stinking up your place, so that would piss me off.

I dont know to much about this, Bwhen quit drinking for over 14 months ,It seemed to help? I thought it was better than booze.

Ok I'm a bit fresher today!

I once chatted about this subject to a cross-addict and he had a lovely view on this.

He said "we all come to own conclusions about step 1. I know for me where somking weed would lead me - back to the booze."

I like the NA definition of step 1 (or the illness):

"We are powerless over a disease that gets progressively worse when we use any drug. It does not matter what drug was at the center for us when we arrived. Any drug we use will release our disease all over again. We recover from the disease of addiction by applying our Twelve Steps."

Didn't help me. I tried substituting booze with weed for the same reasons listed below... I'm not that aggressive, I dont get that sick... Substituting turned into combining the two.. which lead to a mess, then I got into hard drugs... bigger mess... In my opinion you are not sober if you are smoking pot. Alcoholism is a progressive disease, it doesn't get treated with weed. If you are an alcoholic and therefore you can't control your drinking, eventually, you wont be able to control your smoking either. And things will only get worse in the end.

Pot is a mind altering drug, therefore I don't feel your roommate is sober 3 years if she smokes pot. There are other crutches that ppl indulge in that don't impede on sobriety, like nicotene and caffeine, but pot counts as a relapse.

Quite Simply No

They remain an addict of there choice, this time its Pot

Trickey

no you can't be sober while smoking pot.It's my personal opinion and alot of friend's of mine that you are not SOBER if you are still drinking or using substances.

what do you all think about a drug like paxil? i have been taking a low dose of this med since 97.it has helped with my massive mood swings

My daughter just started out patient treatment for pain meds.On xmas day at my sisters she asked if there was any beer. I asked her if she was still in treatment and she said 'yes". I told her that when your going stright , you must be stright with everything. She advised me that I didnt know what I was talking about. She told me that I am the one with the problem with booze, not her........Oh well. I didnt say anymore to her only to my H.P.I prayed for her...

There is a pamphlet I found called AA and other Medications. It states, we are not doctors. There used to be a lot of shame with taking anti-depressants in AA. Not anymore. It has saved countless of alcoholics lives. Paxil and other anti-depressants are prescribed medications. You do not get "high" from anti-depressants. For some of us, an anti-depressant will keep us from self-medicating.
Pot is legal in California, and you can get it at little clinics everywhere. I have a friend who has a prescription for pot and believes she is sober because she is using it "as prescribed." The thing is, doctors there can only "suggest" weed.
Would you consider Pot a medicinal drug under these circumstances? Personally, I do not. I think it is a convienient excuse to get high with the exception of cancer, glaucoma, and other researched diseases that pot has been proven to help.
What do you think?

Being medicated and self medication are two different things in my eyes...

I was on anti-depressants but wanted to stop them as soon as I could as I instinctively knew my depression was alcohol-related. My doctor agreed.

Always consult doctors with regards to medication.

Don't self-medicate though! However your interpretation of step 1 is entirely up to you with regards to other drugs.

Weed is only prescribed for illnesses like MS in my experience - rarely so too.