Alcoholism Support Group
Alcoholism is the continued consumption of alcoholic beverages, even when it is negatively affecting your health, work, relationships and life. If you think alcohol is causing you to lose control, it's time to seek help. Our group is a safe place to vent, check in, get back up if you fall, and reach sobriety.
JustASimpleGuy
...was admitted to the hospital last week. She's a long-term, hard-core alcoholic. She survived a double aneurysm in 2006, and all things considered had a miraculous recovery. After weeks in the ICU, more weeks in recovery and a month in a rehab facility she recovered close to 90% neuroligically and the only noticeable lasting impact was a slower gait and slight balance issues.
Sadly she went right back to heavy drinking. Vodka was her drink and lots of it from when she got up in the morning to when she fell off to sleep on the couch. She also neglected proper nutrition. I doubt if on average she consumed more than 500 calories a day from solid food.
The doctor was leaning toward a diagnosis of WernickeKorsakoff syndrome. It's a severe B1 deficiency and results in damage to specific areas of the brain.
Well, she took a turn for the worse last night. Cardiac arrest. She's now in ICU on a ventilator, her kidneys aren't funtioning and her blood pressure is extremely low, requiring a transfusion and meds to boost the BP. She's also unaware and incoherent.
Not sure if she's in a coma. The doctor wants to do some additional assessments, however it doesn't look good. She was hinting a decision might need to be made soon, and I asked if she was talking about a DNR. She acknowledged she was.
The sad thing is this was preventable. She'd been sliding down the past several months. First numbness in one arm, tingling in her limbs, lethargy, weakness, etc... She refused to go to the doctor. Her boyfriend, who's also a hard-core alcoholic was also in denial and didn't think it was critical enough to force the issue.
If WernickeKorsakoff syndrome is caught early enough, it's treatable with vitamin B1 therapy. Depending how far it's advanced some or most of the symptoms can be reversed or at least mitigated. Others like memory loss & function can't, but can at least be arrested and stabilized.
The thing is the disease (alcoholism) prevented both of them from grasping the seriousness of the situation and dealing with it in a pro-active manner.
None of this is a shock to me. They are both adults (she's 52, he's 60) and over the years I tried to reason with them to moderate and at least eat well. I pushed her harder way, way back, but as you probably know that turned out to be very counter-productive. She's been in rehab twice, once under a court order.
Frankly I don't think her boyfriend is far behind her. The first thing he does after waking up is grab a beer from the fridge and that continues all day until he falls asleep in the recliner. He's definitely malnourished too, his legs have been swelling and turning yellowish and he has very little strength in them. He also has sever lung dysfunction and any little bump on his body produces nasty blood blotches from ruptured capillaries.
I don't mean to lecture anyone here. I really don't. My sister and her boyfriend might be extreme examples. However I see how horribly this has destroyed their lives and quite frankly caused pain to those who care for them.
Regardless I love them both and it saddens me they have spent the last 5 or 6 years sitting in their livingroom pretty much 24x7 drinking and watching TV. Alcoholism, especially to this degree, is a merciless thief of all life has to offer.
If this post gives only one person that little extra bit of incentive to attain sobriety or stay sober, that would be a great thing.
Best wishes to everyone who is battling this disease.
Sadly she went right back to heavy drinking. Vodka was her drink and lots of it from when she got up in the morning to when she fell off to sleep on the couch. She also neglected proper nutrition. I doubt if on average she consumed more than 500 calories a day from solid food.
The doctor was leaning toward a diagnosis of WernickeKorsakoff syndrome. It's a severe B1 deficiency and results in damage to specific areas of the brain.
Well, she took a turn for the worse last night. Cardiac arrest. She's now in ICU on a ventilator, her kidneys aren't funtioning and her blood pressure is extremely low, requiring a transfusion and meds to boost the BP. She's also unaware and incoherent.
Not sure if she's in a coma. The doctor wants to do some additional assessments, however it doesn't look good. She was hinting a decision might need to be made soon, and I asked if she was talking about a DNR. She acknowledged she was.
The sad thing is this was preventable. She'd been sliding down the past several months. First numbness in one arm, tingling in her limbs, lethargy, weakness, etc... She refused to go to the doctor. Her boyfriend, who's also a hard-core alcoholic was also in denial and didn't think it was critical enough to force the issue.
If WernickeKorsakoff syndrome is caught early enough, it's treatable with vitamin B1 therapy. Depending how far it's advanced some or most of the symptoms can be reversed or at least mitigated. Others like memory loss & function can't, but can at least be arrested and stabilized.
The thing is the disease (alcoholism) prevented both of them from grasping the seriousness of the situation and dealing with it in a pro-active manner.
None of this is a shock to me. They are both adults (she's 52, he's 60) and over the years I tried to reason with them to moderate and at least eat well. I pushed her harder way, way back, but as you probably know that turned out to be very counter-productive. She's been in rehab twice, once under a court order.
Frankly I don't think her boyfriend is far behind her. The first thing he does after waking up is grab a beer from the fridge and that continues all day until he falls asleep in the recliner. He's definitely malnourished too, his legs have been swelling and turning yellowish and he has very little strength in them. He also has sever lung dysfunction and any little bump on his body produces nasty blood blotches from ruptured capillaries.
I don't mean to lecture anyone here. I really don't. My sister and her boyfriend might be extreme examples. However I see how horribly this has destroyed their lives and quite frankly caused pain to those who care for them.
Regardless I love them both and it saddens me they have spent the last 5 or 6 years sitting in their livingroom pretty much 24x7 drinking and watching TV. Alcoholism, especially to this degree, is a merciless thief of all life has to offer.
If this post gives only one person that little extra bit of incentive to attain sobriety or stay sober, that would be a great thing.
Best wishes to everyone who is battling this disease.
This disease told me that what you describe only happened to other people but would never happen to me.
Consequences never kept me from drinking. An alcoholic has no choice in the matter. I sure didn't.
Sending prayers to you in the difficult days ahead.
So in a way I've been preparing for this for some time. It's not a shock like the double aneurysm was.
Though they're both on SSDI, neither of them are dumb. My sister was a straight-A student through high school. Her boyfriend is fairly sharp and has a lot of common sense in most areas.
Both come from large, close and loving families.
And yeah, I'm aware of the absolute power of the disease and the hold it has over its victims. I suspect that's clearer to those close to them and not so afflicted.
I also worry for her boyfriend. As I said, I don't think he's all that far behind her, and her departure will most likely hasten his. He left me a voice message last night and he was very broken-up. I haven't been able to get hold of him since, however I called some of their mutual friends in their area. He's going to need lots of emotional support.
We can only pray for your stength and peaceful rest for your sister.
Sharing your experience will hopefully strike a chord with some reading here about just how serious an illness this is.
As I learned when new in AA "this is the only illness that tells you that you haven't got it." Simplifies it, I know, but the poor long term recovery rates bear a kind of witness to that statement.
You and your family are in my prayers.
It helped this alcoholic affirm that I need to go to any length to keep protecting and adding to the foundation that I have.
Unfortunately there are thousands and thousands each year that are killed by their alcoholism.
Sending up a prayer fro you
Peace
I found this venue because of a rather hard breakup with my GF almost two years ago. The BU&D sub-forum helped me immeasurably. I've been able to put it behind me thanks in no small part to that forum.
I posted this story here for a very specific reason: To potentially give something back to this venue. If this helps just one person, that would be an incredible memorial to my sister. I know it would make her ecstatic.
Thankyou for sharing especially at this time.My love and prayers to you and your sister and her partner. Alcoholism is a dirty rotten stinking disease. And it doesn't want to kill you before it has taken everything from you everything.
I have lost so many of my family as a direct result of there alcoholism. yet I kept drinking I was one if told by the doctor you will die if you keep drinking.I would say well you have to die sometime the denial can be so strong.
I don't think you can start to get well,well I didn't until you stop believing the lies this disease tells you like ."But you don't understand my case is different." "Things will be different next time." "you work hard you deserve a drink." "One drink won't hurt" the list goes on. Cunning Baffling and Powerful.
I also hope someone reading your post may stop and think .If you are alcoholic and you keep drinking it is only going to get worse never better. And i hope you don't use ." "But you don't understand my case is different."
God Bless..
Lionel
Thank you so much for this post. I have several years under my belt but there are times I have the urge to go get a bottle.
Your post brought home the precise reason that I can never entertain that thought at all.
This is not a lecture, imo - you shared some very important information about just how far down we can go while defending our right to drink - eg kill ourselves.
It sounds like your sister is probably dying from this disease and I'm so sorry that you may lose her. Yes - killing ourselves is preventable. Some of us are lucky to have found a way out of the obsession to drink, before we become so sick......
Those of us who have been able to walk away from alcohol are very blessed - and taking this blessing very seriously is so necessary.
Good luck to your sister - you are clearly a very loving brother and she is lucky to have someone who cares so much about her, in her life.
Be well.
LJ
stay strong, my friend
Yes LindaJean. There's no doubt her impending passing is due to alcohol. WernickeKorsakoff syndrome is the result of a severe vitamin B1 deficiency brought on by extended malnutrition. Her alcoholism is the proximate cause of her manultrition.
She was too busy drinking from dawn to dusk to be much bothered with proper nutrition, especially the past 5 or 6 years.
The result is severe damage and atropy to certain areas of her brain. Areas responsible for regulating some bodily functions and also rational thought.
I never really thought about the long-term physical effects of alcohol. I have been "lucky" so far. I know that I put myself at risk when I drink but that is just one more thing I consciously deny about my life.
Thank you for posting here during this difficult time. I wish you serenity and peace.
CTB - I'll be fine. While death never appears a good thing, her quality of life has taken a nose-dive these last few months. Authorizing the DNR is my last act of love and compassion for my sister. Well, not exactly. I know she would want me to do whatever I can for her SO after she passes, and I will.
TS - I don't think my sister or her boyfriend thought much about the negative effects either. In fact they never truly understood just how much it's taken from them and were always mystified when they weren't feeling well. He still doesn't understand what's going on with his legs and the ugly bloody splotches all over his body.
I think it's related to cirrhosis of the liver. By the way, the doctors confirmed her liver was in bad shape too. I think his is probably much worse and he also had half his bowel resected a few years back. He almost died, as he was having stomach problems, wouldn't go to the doctor, and when it was almost too late had to be rushed to the hospital by ambulance. They discovered a large part of his bowel was just so much dead and rotting flesh.
Sorry if I'm too graphic, but It's just unimaginable to me alcohol can so devastate one's body and yet they dismiss it and continue the destruction without a second thought.
I am sorry your sister is dying this way and i hope you telling her story helps others to realize that drinking destroys us from the inside out.
I did not quit when my sister died. I drank the night she ended up in the ICU for the last time, the day we removed life support, the night she died and the day of her service. I know this because I drank every single day no matter what. Her dying was not enough to make me stop but it did help me recognize when i started experiencing some of the signs of physical damage I was causing to myself:
unexplained abdominal pain
diarrhea
shaking hands
yellowish eyes
bruising
and of course the hangovers
It is pretty easy to discount these signs if you are drinking -- after all,
nondrinkers can experience these things as well. But these are all signs that the drinking is causing major damage and sooner or later it will destroy us if we continue to drink.
So no, I do not think you are being too graphic.
Again, thanks for posting.
Thank you for your posts. And I wish you, your sister and all those affected peace, love and serenity.
Paul