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Alcoholism is the continued consumption of alcoholic beverages, even when it is negatively affecting your health, work, relationships and life. If you think alcohol is causing you to lose control, it's time to seek help. Our group is a safe place to vent, check in, get back up if you fall, and reach sobriety.
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Just for those who haven't seen this or those who may need to see it again myself included.
God Bless...
Lionel
I AM YOUR DISEASE
I hate meetings.
I hate Higher Power.
I hate anyone who has a Twelve Step program.
To all who come in contact with me,
I wish you death and I wish you suffering.
Allow me to introduce myself.
I am the Disease of Alcoholism.
Cunning, baffling, and Powerful.
Thats me.
I have killed millions, and I am pleased.
I love to catch you with the element of surprise.
I love pretending I am your friend and lover.
I have given you comfort, have I not?
Wasnt I there when you were lonely?
When you wanted to die, didnt you call me?
I was there. I love to make you hurt.
I love to make you cry.
Better yet, I love when I make you so numb you can neither hurt nor cry.
You cant feel anything at all.
This is true Glory.
I will give you instant gratification and all I ask of you is long term suffering.
Ive always been there for you.
When things were going right in your life, you invited me.
You said you didnt deserve these good things and I was the only one who would agree with you.
Together we were able to destroy all the things good in your life.
People dont take me seriously.
They take strokes seriously, heart attacks, even diabetes they take seriously-fools that they are.
They dont know that without my help, these things would not be made possible.
I am such a hated disease.
And yet, I do not come uninvited.
You choose to have me.
So many have chosen me over reality and peace.
More than you hate me,
I hate all of you who have a 12 step program.
Your program, your meeting, your higher power:
All weaken me and I cant function in the manner I am accustomed to.
Now I must lie here quietly.
You dont see me.
But I am growing, bigger than ever.
WHEN YOU ONLY EXIST, I MAY LIVE.
WHEN YOU LIVE, I ONLY EXIST.
But I am here.
Until we meet again,
If we meet again,
I WISH YOU DEATH
AND I WISH YOU SUFFERING !!
Anonymous
God Bless...
Lionel
I AM YOUR DISEASE
I hate meetings.
I hate Higher Power.
I hate anyone who has a Twelve Step program.
To all who come in contact with me,
I wish you death and I wish you suffering.
Allow me to introduce myself.
I am the Disease of Alcoholism.
Cunning, baffling, and Powerful.
Thats me.
I have killed millions, and I am pleased.
I love to catch you with the element of surprise.
I love pretending I am your friend and lover.
I have given you comfort, have I not?
Wasnt I there when you were lonely?
When you wanted to die, didnt you call me?
I was there. I love to make you hurt.
I love to make you cry.
Better yet, I love when I make you so numb you can neither hurt nor cry.
You cant feel anything at all.
This is true Glory.
I will give you instant gratification and all I ask of you is long term suffering.
Ive always been there for you.
When things were going right in your life, you invited me.
You said you didnt deserve these good things and I was the only one who would agree with you.
Together we were able to destroy all the things good in your life.
People dont take me seriously.
They take strokes seriously, heart attacks, even diabetes they take seriously-fools that they are.
They dont know that without my help, these things would not be made possible.
I am such a hated disease.
And yet, I do not come uninvited.
You choose to have me.
So many have chosen me over reality and peace.
More than you hate me,
I hate all of you who have a 12 step program.
Your program, your meeting, your higher power:
All weaken me and I cant function in the manner I am accustomed to.
Now I must lie here quietly.
You dont see me.
But I am growing, bigger than ever.
WHEN YOU ONLY EXIST, I MAY LIVE.
WHEN YOU LIVE, I ONLY EXIST.
But I am here.
Until we meet again,
If we meet again,
I WISH YOU DEATH
AND I WISH YOU SUFFERING !!
Anonymous
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I invited Bill to have dinner with me last Sunday. He wasn't willing to drive 7 hours to mid Michigan and teased me with his beautiful ribs!!! So, of course I ate alone and had cedar salmonĀ


The first four chapters and discussion can be found in this group.
http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/big-book-study-group
I think my conclusion would be that smaller chunks should be posted at one time - I tried to do a similar study on aa Spoken Here but it ran out of steam and possibly I did the same thing - posted too much at once.
Might start posting bits on here instead - the sub groups (most of them) are very quiet these days.
People tend to stick to the main board but I am sure there is room on here for all. At least you get more participation and newcomers are instantly aware of what is being discussed right here.
Food for thought anyway and I don't want to this thread to go too far away from its original subject so I will leave it there.
The non 12 steps board isn't as active as the main board, but it fills a definite purpose and the people who use it get a lot out of it -- more than the main board. Seems to me that the same could be true for the other sub groups.
For all: the subgroups can be found here:
http://www.dailystrength.org/c/Alcoholism/groups
There are also sorts of things posted here and sometimes some of them have nothing to do with alcoholism.
Also we have almost daily postings of NA text - postings which are not stipulated as NA text in the title - and yet it seems no CLs have objected to those?
Some people are not interested in going to join or regularly visit the sub groups.
When Lori and I set up "aa Spoken Here" myself and the admins worked very hard at putting up new subjects for discussion but it takes everyone to participate to make a group work.
I still input a lot on "aa Spoken Here" but that is not the point. I think if people don't want to read my discussion posts on the main page they can just pass them by.
Is there any objections from DS itself - it is in no way controversial as I can see it.
I used to put a link to "aa Spoken Here" regularly on this main board but that didn't seem to be very well received either so I stopped doing it. If the CLs don't object I will resume that.
I think it may be a little intrusive to target individual newcomers with links and too time consuming as well.
Another thing I will do is post what I post here on "aa Spoken Here" for a while and see if we can pick up some interest that way.
"aa Spoken Here is the largest sub group for the alcoholism board and I recently sent a message to all members so I have not abandoned it.
Here is the link for anyone interested:
http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/alcoholicsanonymous
hugs bill the main boarder
No problem with AA- I realize it's a large slice of the recovery community. It's just that if I want to read large blocks of text written by someone else, I can google it and look it up myself.
I don't think I am...but I'm glad I keep coming back here!
Alot of people sit up when they read what you posted, heard it round and about.
Kathappy, you keep coming back. I read a lot here, I keep coming back just so long as they "tolerate" AAs here..
Yup...some days I do.
Lionel, thanks for posting this topic. I have this posted on my refrigerator, and I read it every day, just as a reminder.