Alcoholism Support Group
Alcoholism is the continued consumption of alcoholic beverages, even when it is negatively affecting your health, work, relationships and life. If you think alcohol is causing you to lose control, it's time to seek help. Our group is a safe place to vent, check in, get back up if you fall, and reach sobriety.
john1992
Hello everyone, this is my first time on a forum, not only the first time on a aa forum but a forum in general...To be honest with you, i have arrived to a situation where my personal thoughts and experiences cannot find an answer to what i am looking for. I am seeking advice. No one around me seems to be living the same situation and for once i will find the courage to speak about it.
I am the first born of 2 divorced alcoholics, one would be a "functional alcoholic" (drinks every day, mood swings, socially normal, or let's say less hard to deal with than the other parent ...but keeps a kind of normal life now that he is retired), and a mother who is slowly destroying/killing herself through alcohol.
I have had this environment since i was very young ( I am in college now). I am not used to these kind of ways to communicate about things over the internet, but i could use some advice and help.
I do not speak english perfectly since english is not my first language but i will try my best... I will try to describe what creates a great deal of suffering to myself.
I do not really know where to search help and advice from, so in a desperate measure i will try new methods...Reason why i try this forum.
So i am the son of 2 alcoholic parents, i have a sister, and i love my family very much. Of course, like anybody else, i did not choose my family, nor did i choose the experiences i have went through.
I have always had a hard time dealing with the alcoholism of my mother especially, and i have a hard time understanding why. I've spent my life trying to care and protect my family, especially my sister from all of this but i feel lost. I do not know what to do, i do not know what to feel, i do not know what is the next step, i do not know what is the right way to deal with this situation, and i have no one who to talk to about it.
I live in a reality that i cannot share. I have no friends that i can share my story with and the only time i have spoken about it the only advice i get is "you got to protect yourself". I do not worry by pleasure, i worry because i love my family and they are all that i have.
Sadly, having divorced parents, i feel responsible of the well being of my mother. She does not have any family close by. My sister and i are her only family and i am the only one who cares...That build up a huge weight on me...
I have been living with this alcoholic mother since 10 years now, probably more, and it has a real impact on my own life. The rare people i have dared to speak about only a small story about certain things like when i could not show up for certain classes because my mother would be in the hospital for diverse reasons due to alcohol like liver cirrohsis or brain damage due to falling in the stairs, etc... they always told me to find a way to accept the situation...My problem is that i keep hope that she will change, because she has moments where she understands that she needs to stop alcohol and stops for a couple of weeks, but only to start drinking again even more than before. I am young, but i have gone through (other than alcoholic parents) so much for my age, but of course that makes me stronger, but i feel weak since a few weeks.
I try to be the pillar of stability for my sister, to always be there when she needs help and advice for anything, i try to be there for my step brothers, i help them in their school work. I try to be the best son i can, i call my mother everytime i can to avoid her feeling lonely, etc... But i am starting to be worried...
I have gone through this kind of experience more than once but this time was different in the fact that i felt the need for help and advice for the first time. I could not deal with it alone totally anymore.
Recently i arrived home (i felt the need to urgently go back home because my mom was not answering the phone and the last voicemail she left me was totally drunk speech, and i had a wierd feeling) And i found her in her bed, with bruises all over her face, for a moment i thought she was dead...She was just passed out.
Having lived with this women for most of my life, i did not even recognize her. She probably fell in the stairs, but she was telling me to leave her alone. I could not leave her alone. I told her that she had the choice, i would call an ambulance or i would call a doctor. But it was 2 am. I decided to call a doctor and explain the situation. The doctor asked me to call the police. She was worried, through the symptoms that i described, that she had been beaten. I did what the doctor said. The police came, the doctor came after, and they all said that i did the right thing and they told me that we could not leave her alone (my mother at that time thought that there was no problem and that all was good...).
Finally an ambulance came, in her living room there was the equivalent of 50 liters of empty bottles, there was things every where as if someone had tried to break in and steal things...My mother had fallen in the stairs, and was lucky enough to get back up and walk, but there was blood everywhere, I had the impression of being in a crime scene of CSI with what i saw...But that was not a part that marked me, sadly said, i have had already gone through that a couple months before.
So the police and doctor called the ambulance, which arrived, and decided to pick her up, because we could not leave her in such state all alone (when she drinks she does not eat, does not change clothes, does not wash, does not go to the bathroom other than on herself,...).
And she was taken to the emergencies. The doctors there said that it was a question of days. She would have stayed in her state, with no help, she could have started to have epileptic crisis due to blood in the brain because of the fall in the stairs that was not taken care of fast enough, and the alcohol killing her so much that her liver could just not take it anymore.
She stayed in the hospital for many weeks. But my mother is not the easy type to accept that she made a mistake, no, i was the bad child to have called for help and put her in "prison" in the hospital. I know withdrawal does affect a person, i have seen that many times, but this was plain aggressive all the time for no reason. I was trying to go to school and go to class, and try to have a normal student life when the doctors say that she does not have much time left, but i tried my best. It was not easy.
Long story short, she was kept in the hospital as long as it was the "necessary judicial limit" for them to let her go if she wanted to go back home. They cannot keep a patient against their will after a certain time, even if it could save their life.
Back home, she stopped drinking, after going through neurological tests, that clearly proved that alcohol developed holes in her brain, and her liver was completely destroyed and her blood tests were very bad.
And things were going great, sober for a few weeks, i finally had the impression of seeing my mother that i did not see since a decade. But a few days later, as soon as she could drive again, she went to go buy some alcohol again and got drunk...
All this story could last long, and it is already hard to explain this story with a keyboard, and i am not used to this, and this is only 1% of what has been happening these last years...
But as i said, i feel lost, i am always the guy who is strong and deals with everything, but problem has made me admit that i am weak towards my emotions of fear and incomprehension towards this situation.
She has been this way since years, especially during final exam moments, my sister and i, her only family left, we love her very much, we try our best, we do everything and try all the ways we know to make her feel good, and when she is sober she is so grateful, but when she get's drunk we are bad children who do not care about her. She manipulates us against each other and my main problem is this incomprehension towards this whole situation...I have grown and developed (i hope) more maturity and wisdom over the years, and i used to be just angry towards my parents for them making me suffer and drinking too much. But now i know that there is for sure a deep meaning to all of this that i cannot comprehend. There must be expressions of fears or deep psychological issues that were not resolved that come out now.
But all i know is that its hard to trying to be the normal kid/young adult/student and go forward in life when you go through these kind of events.
What i am seeking for is maybe someone who was in the same situation, and maybe give me some tips or advice on how to deal with this situation, because im not afraid to say that for most things im really strong and i can deal with anything, but with this, i have no shame in saying i need your help or advice.
Sorry the story was long, and i dont really know how this whole forum thing works, but if you took the time to go through all of this, thank you.
If there are students out there, who do some of you find the distance to focus, and how do you deal with this kind of situation?
I am the first born of 2 divorced alcoholics, one would be a "functional alcoholic" (drinks every day, mood swings, socially normal, or let's say less hard to deal with than the other parent ...but keeps a kind of normal life now that he is retired), and a mother who is slowly destroying/killing herself through alcohol.
I have had this environment since i was very young ( I am in college now). I am not used to these kind of ways to communicate about things over the internet, but i could use some advice and help.
I do not speak english perfectly since english is not my first language but i will try my best... I will try to describe what creates a great deal of suffering to myself.
I do not really know where to search help and advice from, so in a desperate measure i will try new methods...Reason why i try this forum.
So i am the son of 2 alcoholic parents, i have a sister, and i love my family very much. Of course, like anybody else, i did not choose my family, nor did i choose the experiences i have went through.
I have always had a hard time dealing with the alcoholism of my mother especially, and i have a hard time understanding why. I've spent my life trying to care and protect my family, especially my sister from all of this but i feel lost. I do not know what to do, i do not know what to feel, i do not know what is the next step, i do not know what is the right way to deal with this situation, and i have no one who to talk to about it.
I live in a reality that i cannot share. I have no friends that i can share my story with and the only time i have spoken about it the only advice i get is "you got to protect yourself". I do not worry by pleasure, i worry because i love my family and they are all that i have.
Sadly, having divorced parents, i feel responsible of the well being of my mother. She does not have any family close by. My sister and i are her only family and i am the only one who cares...That build up a huge weight on me...
I have been living with this alcoholic mother since 10 years now, probably more, and it has a real impact on my own life. The rare people i have dared to speak about only a small story about certain things like when i could not show up for certain classes because my mother would be in the hospital for diverse reasons due to alcohol like liver cirrohsis or brain damage due to falling in the stairs, etc... they always told me to find a way to accept the situation...My problem is that i keep hope that she will change, because she has moments where she understands that she needs to stop alcohol and stops for a couple of weeks, but only to start drinking again even more than before. I am young, but i have gone through (other than alcoholic parents) so much for my age, but of course that makes me stronger, but i feel weak since a few weeks.
I try to be the pillar of stability for my sister, to always be there when she needs help and advice for anything, i try to be there for my step brothers, i help them in their school work. I try to be the best son i can, i call my mother everytime i can to avoid her feeling lonely, etc... But i am starting to be worried...
I have gone through this kind of experience more than once but this time was different in the fact that i felt the need for help and advice for the first time. I could not deal with it alone totally anymore.
Recently i arrived home (i felt the need to urgently go back home because my mom was not answering the phone and the last voicemail she left me was totally drunk speech, and i had a wierd feeling) And i found her in her bed, with bruises all over her face, for a moment i thought she was dead...She was just passed out.
Having lived with this women for most of my life, i did not even recognize her. She probably fell in the stairs, but she was telling me to leave her alone. I could not leave her alone. I told her that she had the choice, i would call an ambulance or i would call a doctor. But it was 2 am. I decided to call a doctor and explain the situation. The doctor asked me to call the police. She was worried, through the symptoms that i described, that she had been beaten. I did what the doctor said. The police came, the doctor came after, and they all said that i did the right thing and they told me that we could not leave her alone (my mother at that time thought that there was no problem and that all was good...).
Finally an ambulance came, in her living room there was the equivalent of 50 liters of empty bottles, there was things every where as if someone had tried to break in and steal things...My mother had fallen in the stairs, and was lucky enough to get back up and walk, but there was blood everywhere, I had the impression of being in a crime scene of CSI with what i saw...But that was not a part that marked me, sadly said, i have had already gone through that a couple months before.
So the police and doctor called the ambulance, which arrived, and decided to pick her up, because we could not leave her in such state all alone (when she drinks she does not eat, does not change clothes, does not wash, does not go to the bathroom other than on herself,...).
And she was taken to the emergencies. The doctors there said that it was a question of days. She would have stayed in her state, with no help, she could have started to have epileptic crisis due to blood in the brain because of the fall in the stairs that was not taken care of fast enough, and the alcohol killing her so much that her liver could just not take it anymore.
She stayed in the hospital for many weeks. But my mother is not the easy type to accept that she made a mistake, no, i was the bad child to have called for help and put her in "prison" in the hospital. I know withdrawal does affect a person, i have seen that many times, but this was plain aggressive all the time for no reason. I was trying to go to school and go to class, and try to have a normal student life when the doctors say that she does not have much time left, but i tried my best. It was not easy.
Long story short, she was kept in the hospital as long as it was the "necessary judicial limit" for them to let her go if she wanted to go back home. They cannot keep a patient against their will after a certain time, even if it could save their life.
Back home, she stopped drinking, after going through neurological tests, that clearly proved that alcohol developed holes in her brain, and her liver was completely destroyed and her blood tests were very bad.
And things were going great, sober for a few weeks, i finally had the impression of seeing my mother that i did not see since a decade. But a few days later, as soon as she could drive again, she went to go buy some alcohol again and got drunk...
All this story could last long, and it is already hard to explain this story with a keyboard, and i am not used to this, and this is only 1% of what has been happening these last years...
But as i said, i feel lost, i am always the guy who is strong and deals with everything, but problem has made me admit that i am weak towards my emotions of fear and incomprehension towards this situation.
She has been this way since years, especially during final exam moments, my sister and i, her only family left, we love her very much, we try our best, we do everything and try all the ways we know to make her feel good, and when she is sober she is so grateful, but when she get's drunk we are bad children who do not care about her. She manipulates us against each other and my main problem is this incomprehension towards this whole situation...I have grown and developed (i hope) more maturity and wisdom over the years, and i used to be just angry towards my parents for them making me suffer and drinking too much. But now i know that there is for sure a deep meaning to all of this that i cannot comprehend. There must be expressions of fears or deep psychological issues that were not resolved that come out now.
But all i know is that its hard to trying to be the normal kid/young adult/student and go forward in life when you go through these kind of events.
What i am seeking for is maybe someone who was in the same situation, and maybe give me some tips or advice on how to deal with this situation, because im not afraid to say that for most things im really strong and i can deal with anything, but with this, i have no shame in saying i need your help or advice.
Sorry the story was long, and i dont really know how this whole forum thing works, but if you took the time to go through all of this, thank you.
If there are students out there, who do some of you find the distance to focus, and how do you deal with this kind of situation?
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It sounds like you are doing the best you can to take care of those around you. As you realize, you can't force your mother to stop drinking even if you know it is killing her. I think we underestimate the damage that drinking does to us and to those around us.
It's a lot for you to deal with. You might want to explore meditation, mindfulness, and exercise as ways to help you stay centered and okay. Counseling is also a suggestion -- you do need to take care of yourself through all of this.
As hard as this may sound just take care of yourself. The toughest thing is to let the person hit their bottom.
I will pray for you
1is2many
I too, watched my mother commit a slow suicide with the bottle and no matter what I did to help her, I could not do anything to stop her from drinking herself to death!
I was away at college and only a few courses short of getting my degree when I dropped everything to go home and tend to my mother who was dying of sirosis. I remember calling the ambulance while she was throwing up blood and as they carried her out of the house for the last time, she said, "I don't want to die!"
I never got my degree and for the next 35 years, I held on to alot of guilt and shame over my inability to stop the madness of alcoholism in my home. That guilt affected every major decision, I ever made, in a negative way and lead to my own addiction problems. I nearly died from a drug overdose about 10 years ago and it wasn't until I was treated for my own addiction problems, that I was finally able to let go of all that guilt!
You don't say where you live but if they have an alanon meeting nearby, you will find alot of support for yourself which is what you need right now. It is extremely difficult for you to go through this alone so I highly recommend alanon.
Later in life, I forgave my parents for their drinking and I forgave myself for holding on to all that guilt and now I have a peace of mind that I never thought possible.
I will keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers,
God Bless!
That is a terrible position to be in and you deserve great credit for your efforts at making it better. Sadly, there is no easy solution but there are some positive things that you can do.
The first thing to understand is that just because you have not succeeded in fixing this problem it does not mean that you are weak quite the opposite in fact, judging by what you have written. You are however powerless over your mothers drinking so try to accept that you cannot fix it. Sadly, your mother may not survive for long if things do not change so you need to be prepared for the worst. However, there is always hope and miracles do happen to people who have your mothers problem.
You do have control over your own life so that is the best place to place your focus. Both you and your sister are victims of alcoholism and victims need help too. You have taken a brave first step in reaching out and posting on this forum so keep that going. Being a student, you will probably have a lot of work to do but please try to take some time out to find people who will help you. Al-Anon is dedicated to helping the families of alcoholics so maybe you should look them up and go to some meetings. You will meet people like yourself there but the difference is that some of them will have more experience of dealing with the problem. In dealing with an alcoholic family member it is common to make mistakes, simply because nobody learns that stuff at school. The people at Al-Anon can share their experience and you can avoid making some of those common mistakes.
There are groups here on DS that may also be more beneficial for you than the alcoholism group and I will post some links below. There are probably some others too and maybe someone will post the links.
Adult Children of Alcoholics
http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/adultchildrenofalcoholics/
A Support Group for Adult Children of Alcoholics. It doesnt seem to be very active lately.
AlAnon One Day at a Time
http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/al-anon-one-day-at-a-time/
This is a group for families and friends affected by someone elses drinking.