Alcoholism Support Group
Alcoholism is the continued consumption of alcoholic beverages, even when it is negatively affecting your health, work, relationships and life. If you think alcohol is causing you to lose control, it's time to seek help. Our group is a safe place to vent, check in, get back up if you fall, and reach sobriety.
The Third Tradition states that, "The only requirement for AA membership is desire to stop drinking."
Many people in our group have successfully stopped drinking alcohol, live the Steps and lead happy lives. Many too have used the Steps to quit drinking and other addictive substances.
However, there are people who stop drinking but continue to use other substances and might even consider themselves as sober alcoholics. While I personally don't think a person is sober if they continue to get high on other substances, that person can still call himself a member of Alcoholics Anonymous if he has the desire to stop drinking.
So the group consists of a few substance abusers who are actively trying to stop drinking. What's the problem?
Our group is involved in a lot of 12 Step Work. Our members have the opportunity to go to hospitals and treatment facilities to carry the AA message. People sign up to go and facilitate meetings at these centres.
The problem occurs when a person who chairs a treatment meeting is an AA member who is actively using illegal substances.
I would like our group to define sobriety-not for AA membership but for active AA service work.
Do any of the groups out there openly state their definition of Sobriety? Or, does your group have a definition of sobriety for those who get involved in service work?
Discussion of this would be useful as we have a committee meeting coming up and I would like to have some information to bring to our committee in order to have them consider defining the parameters of those AA's that are fit for service work.
Service work can be anything including, opening up the club, chairing meetings, committee work, or treatment centre work.
Many people in our group have successfully stopped drinking alcohol, live the Steps and lead happy lives. Many too have used the Steps to quit drinking and other addictive substances.
However, there are people who stop drinking but continue to use other substances and might even consider themselves as sober alcoholics. While I personally don't think a person is sober if they continue to get high on other substances, that person can still call himself a member of Alcoholics Anonymous if he has the desire to stop drinking.
So the group consists of a few substance abusers who are actively trying to stop drinking. What's the problem?
Our group is involved in a lot of 12 Step Work. Our members have the opportunity to go to hospitals and treatment facilities to carry the AA message. People sign up to go and facilitate meetings at these centres.
The problem occurs when a person who chairs a treatment meeting is an AA member who is actively using illegal substances.
I would like our group to define sobriety-not for AA membership but for active AA service work.
Do any of the groups out there openly state their definition of Sobriety? Or, does your group have a definition of sobriety for those who get involved in service work?
Discussion of this would be useful as we have a committee meeting coming up and I would like to have some information to bring to our committee in order to have them consider defining the parameters of those AA's that are fit for service work.
Service work can be anything including, opening up the club, chairing meetings, committee work, or treatment centre work.
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I am also an strong believer that no person should be telling another that they can't take prescribed drugs as long it is under the care and following the directions of a Doctor. I've known people who have committed suicide because they stopped taking their anti-depressents on the advice of an AA person who said they couldn't be considered sober.
I thought that the key thought is "desire to stop".
You've got to be kidding me. This sounds biased and ignorant. It is none of your business if someone is completely sober or not.
It's not the groups business either. If an addict shares, they have privacy and anonymity.
AA service work is voluntary. If someone feels moved and capable to participate in AA service work, great for them, the group and everyone receiving their service..
Surely you aren't appointing these individuals.
Do you ask how sober a person is when a financial donation is offered to your group?
What if they're in an AA meeting and trippin on Acid? Is that ok, because they are there in an 'AA' meeting, and the only requirement is to stop drinking?
What if they go to do service work at a treatment centre on drugs, and something goes wrong, and they aren't really right in their mind and start teaching drugs are ok man, just don't drink?
What about N/A?...What if a person is clean, but not sober? Should that person be able to go to these treatment centres and teach that it's ok to keep drinking if you're alcoholic, just don't drug?
What kind of message would that send to someone who is in need of help?
However, it did plant a seed that allowed me to get sober later on in life.
i admit......i am not sober 100% of the time......hell.....even 50%.......but i do do know peace, heart, truth, sacrifice and and acceptance.
but then again i have been called many adjectives.....my response to the barrage?....spell them :)
no offense....didn't mean to go off subject.