i never have felt the same in the new club. ill give it a try though. one of the last times i was there i got frustrated by a line of conversation that i felt didnt follow my interpretation of the big book. older and wiser now( i hope). maybe i can look at the different lines of thought with a more open mind. im sure ill still argue my side till the day i die though. i cant change how it worked for me. i go to meetings for the pure joy of it. i like being around drunks. and to tell my story. a lot of my favorite oldtimers have passed on so things change. i dont know that its worse, just different

birthday of the sun, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lk1aDEYqJM

Whatever floats your boat Dr.C....

I go to AA though I'm not really welcome, not really. The buddhist philosophy makes sense to me, the Judeo Christian philosophy that the BB is based on doesn't, you know sinner/saint, black/white, original sin and all that.

I do like AA but I got rid of my big book some years ago when cleaning house. figured it might help someone, just not my cup of tea. I explained to my therapist all the misgivings i have about AA (and there are quite a few) and asked if he thought I should go. He said yes and that i should speak my mind regardless of the majority opinion. His reply boiled down to "are you a man or a mouse?". do I have many friends in AA? No. Do I wish that I did? Yes. Will I filter my speech so people like me. Absolutely Not! This approach has done wonders for my self confidence.

idk how many times ive watched this PBS show about the Buddha. i try to avoid religion per say when it comes to my sobriety. sometimes it cant b avoided. its who i am. i seek enlightenment where ever. and from whom ever. i respect people that speak their mind. i read an article about Vietnam one time. it talked about how many people r Buddhists and Christians. they see no conflict

http://annmarcaida.tumblr.com/post/10000508217/thich-nhat-hahn-christian-buddhist-essay-biography

http://www.theholidayspot.com/christmas/worldxmas/vietnam.htm