...hearing the "standard" bedwetting advice in online forums like this -- namely, "don't drink for 2 hours before bed and make sure to use the bathroom before going to sleep at night!" I mean, I'm sure the people who say this mean well, but honestly, do they really think that any one of us hasn't been trying that again and again since we were 3 years old (or whenever we first started having problems) and it hasn't helped, or we wouldn't be here?

Conversely, does anyone ever get tired of being careful about nighttime fluid intake, and on a given night, just say the heck with it and drink whatever you want before bed -- not because you want to wet the bed that night (or even because you don't care about it), but just because you're so sick of having to keep a strict regimen, night in and night out, without success?

Sorry if this sounds a little too much like venting, just wondering whether I'm alone in these thoughts! Glad to see all the new members who have joined recently, let's keep the discussions going... it's good not to be alone with something like this...