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LONG story from wife on the edge!!!! Help please!

I'm not new to being the wife of an alcoholic but I'm new to actually seeking help, as I am just completely defeated and feel like I'm at the edge of a cliff. My husband is 41, we have been married for almost 13 years, and have one 9 year old son. My husband has been a drinker as long as we've been together. I rarely drink and was not raised around alcohol, so it embarrassingly took me a LONG time to realize that his drinking was not normal. He is, and always has been, a "functional " alcoholic. Never seems to have a hangover, has always held a demanding full time job, has been fiscally responsible and has never had any issues with the law.
I began to think there was a problem about 5 years ago. He would come home as always and drink almost an entire box of Franzia wine in an evening. Sometimes a box would last two nights. However, they were not "standard" drinks. He would fill a big plastic tumbler and literally chug it. He admitted that he didn't like the taste but it got him, as he called "buzzed" quickly. He is about 190 lbs, and after 2 tumblers he would be noticeably drunk. Stumbling, slurring, unable to make eye contact, and he would as he said "lose his filter " and say horrible things to me. This was always at night, usually 10-11pm, and he would pick fights, and call me names, and follow me from room to room, because I chose to avoid a confrontation. He always defended his behavior with the caveat that he wasn't being mean, but rather he was being honest.
Then, he was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and high blood pressure. He continued to drink even on multiple medications that warned against it. I did not confront him because I felt responsible. He told me he drank because I stressed him out by not making enough money, and by being super (super) messy and a shitty housekeeper. Both of those are true, so I accepted the blame silently. I thought he did have a lot of stress and needed an outlet. Then about 4 years ago he blacked out. I heard a thud, and found him out cold on the dining room floor. He argued that he had just fallen asleep standing up.(??) I had never experienced that, and with his health issues, was worried, so I got him into bed but sat next to him and watched him the whole night. Instead of falling asleep, he made fun of me and actively mocked me. Just asshole behavior. Because I was concerned about him.
Then, he hit what I thought was his rock bottom. He drank so much in a short amount of time - and was disoriented from being drunk and having a high blood sugar, that while I was caring for our son, he went to soak his foot per drs orders (previous infection due to diabetic neuropathy)... and boiled the damn water first. Then soaked his foot submerged in the water for about 10-15 mins.
Long story short - he was airlifted to a burn unit across the state, spent over a month in the ICU, almost died from losing so much fluid out of the foot, after 3 surgeries they determined it was a FIFTH DEGREE burn. He burned all the way through to the bone. The surgeon first told me to expect death, then to expect leg amputation, then to expect foot amputation, but after all the surgeries, she managed to completely rebuild his foot with all parts intact. Still, it took 1 year for the wounds to close (I wrapped his toes with exposed ligaments every night), and now almost 4 yrs later, it functions but still looks like raw hamburger and is numb, leading to constant infections.
While he was in the hospital, I got rid of all the alcohol, and we agreed he was done. He said he thought about it while in the hospital. I was naive to think he could go cold turkey, but was hopeful since he had just spent a month drying out in the hospital. Then, I discovered about 6 months later that he was drinking vodka. I found a bottle hidden. I didn't mention it to him but monitored it, and realized he was now drinking a fifth every 2 days. I cried every night, because that's when he drank, and I was scared he would die, as he started having breathing problems at night. I slept maybe 2-3 hrs a night, because I was scared to not monitor him.
I finally told him I knew about the drinking, and I stupidly fell for his defense that he works hard and deserves to drink. I thought I was being supportive by coming up with "agreements " on what he could drink and how much a night. In the past 4 years, he has broken every single one, and then immediately proposed a new one to me.
2 yrs ago I reached my limit when he was so drunk one night, he couldn't stand. At all. He fell 10+ times, broke our closet door and heater. Started screaming at me that it was all my fault. Called me worthless and that I added nothing to our family or the world. Said he didn't love me and he didn't even like me. Then he vomited in his sleep, while on his back, without waking up. Scared for his safety, I called 911.
Embarrassingly, I knew the paramedic. They determined he was not yet at the alcohol poisoning stage but was close, especially with all the meds he takes. They cleaned him up for me, and then reaffirmed to me that he was indeed an alcoholic who needed help beyond me. The next day I told him to get into treatment or I was leaving with our son.
He went to a local clinic and went through the yearlong program that included nightly group sessions, and weekly one on one sessions. Unbeknownst to me, he told the counselor that he never intended to give up drinking completely but wanted to control it. I went for one joint session where my husband openly argued with his counselor and despite several professional opinions to the contrary, denied he was an alcoholic. In his mind, he can't be an alcoholic if he can get up and go to work every day.
Apparently he was drinking through out the program. So, last year he had a few nights where he again was verbally abusive to me, with no apparent memory of it the next day. I had to experience the humiliation of not only being berated by my husband but then to have to relive it and tell him what he said the next day. When he's sober he tells me that doesn't mean any of it and that he does truly love me and wants to stay together.
I honestly believe he doesn't believe me when I tell him the horrible things he says, and I've thought about taking a video, but I'm scared how he will react while drunk, and I know his excuses, and when I showed it to him sober, instead of feeling the gravity of the situation, he would accuse me of trying to make him feel bad.
I did confront him and told him that he doesn't have to hit me to be an abusive husband. He always said "I've never hit you " when I complained about his treatment of me. Then I again stupidly agreed to a plan where there was NO vodka. I explained that vodka made him into a monster who not only scares me, but who I hate. He agreed to no more than 4 malt beverages a night. I thought it was too many but didn't know what to do, and then a month ago I realized he was drinking them out of a glass. After he passed out one night, I drank some, and he had mixed it with vodka.
I found his stash downstairs, and told him I knew he was drinking vodka again. He said yes he was. Asked me if I was mad, and I gave the honest answer that I was defeated and no longer felt anything. I no longer believed what he said, so I couldn't be disappointed because I had no hope to begin with. He walked away, and never mentioned it again.
Why is 4 malt beverages a night not enough? And they are the big cans from the gas station. And what does it say about his true feelings for me that he's again drinking the one thing that he knows makes him just angry and emotionally and verbally abusive to me? Why would he want to risk turning into that monster??
He is currently passed out on the couch after I saw him mix 1 cup of vodka with half a Gatorade and drink it within a half hour. (I believe he's also had at least 1 big hard cider, probably mixed with vodka)
He refuses inpatient rehab, refuses AA, refuses counseling (even marriage and not alcohol related). He says he can control it. Obviously not. I don't understand how he can lie to me and expect me to believe it - we are both smart people. Outside of his drinking, he's the most honest person I know. But he can admit that he broke our agreement and say he can control his drinking in the same breath. I feel like he's gaslighting me- trying to make me out to be the crazy one.
I no longer accept responsibility for his drinking. It's not my fault . I know my "agreements " have been enabling and not supportive. I love him and do not want to leave him. Also, I'm now a stay at home mom because our son has ADHD/ODD and requires more of my time. I have no money of my own. I don't know if he uses that knowledge to assume that I'll never really leave him. I do not give ultimatums of divorce lightly, so if I say it, I have to follow through.
I guess, I just need guidance on if he really can control his drinking (not sure why he hasn't yet if its possible), or how to get him to at least attempt counseling, or if I just need to leave. Is it possible for us to have an agreement that he sticks to? I hate it because he calls it a compromise, but I am 100% losing in the deal. I get NOTHING, but he sees it like he's giving into my wishes.
I know I'm the only one who can decide this, but I literally have told no one about this. No one to talk to, no support, nothing. Just me spinning my wheels, making bad decisions with good intent, and getting lied to EVERY time. I want to throw up every time I hear him open a can. It's a visceral reaction. I am sick about it and just heartbroken that he actively chooses alcohol over me, every single night. It's taken its toll on me 365 nights for 4 years.
I want to save his pride, and I know if I tell anyone (like stage an intervention) he will FLIP OUT HARDCORE. His dad, brothers, or any of my family don't know.
So far, our son doesn't know since he goes to bed early and I've intervened if I saw my husband showing major outwardly signs, like too stumbly or talking funny. I know he's heard the yelling and fighting though, which makes me feel like the worst mom ever. And its going to be not long before he's old enough to notice the signs, and I can't imagine raising my son in a home where he sees his father drunk.
My husband is a great man, and I actually feel sorry for how pathetic he looks stumbling, walking into walls, falling, and three times last night he shit himself during the night. But he honestly thinks he is hiding the signs- ita obvious to me when he over corrects, like takes awkwardly large steps or talks too loudly.
Any help is desperately needed. Please!! I want to save my marriage but I don't want that to mean I'm destined to live the rest of my life like this. And brutal honesty is welcome.
Many thanks!
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Hi. This is my first post. I'm here because my husband is an addict and it's having a negative impact on our marriage and my emotional and mental well being. He's an alcoholic who is also addicted to pornography and video gaming. He spends every moment that he isn't at work or sleeping drinking beer, playing his video games, and looking at porn. He's completely pushed me out of his life. We don't...
I could have written a lot of this! My husband and I also had SO many "agreements" that he'd later break. He was certainly not a functional alcoholic though. I think what ultimately happened for us was that he realized he was breaking these agreements- he did, eventually, give up whiskey for beer- not that it made much difference at all when he continued to drink too much, I didn't give a damn what it was that got him to the point of belittling me, falling down, slurring his words and so on- I cared that that was what was happening! But, he could not keep to our agreements over how much beer he drank- if we went to friends, he wanted to bring beer "we shouldn't just be drinking their beer- we should bring a 12 pack over!" Our friends would have 2, and he'd pound as many as he could and then bring as many as his pockets would hold back home if he didn't finish the remaining 10... really, ANY excuse he could to get home than our, at the time, agreed upon 6-pack a week, which would be gone by the end of the first night with him complaining he needed hair of the dog the next morning and then go find the largest, strongest beet the corner store sold... ergh, bad memories.
Humble opinion? No, they can't stop. No "agreement" will work. No agreement that involves a single drop of alcohol will. The moment that first drink registers, they are like a gambling addict at the slot machine, and it's on- they just keep going until their body can't take anymore and they pass out.
I did eventually stage an intervention with the help of a couple of friends- and he did go to rehab.
I don't really have answers for you, I wish I did. I don't believe that unless an addict agrees to go to treatment, or counseling, or AA, or what have you, that it will work. Sure, they might go to appease you but, just like with the agreements- they are saying something to get you off their case, they'll go through the motions of whatever it is for a while and it will be right back to where it is before.
I really, really do worry about a child being involved in the situation though. I'll be really honest with you in that I don't believe a child at the age of 9 doesn't know that something is going on. Even if it's just that a few times dad has "talked funny" or a night that he woke up to dad yelling and he didn't know why or dad was in the hospital when he was 5, or the paramedics where there when he was 7... while he may not have pieced it all together, and please know this is not me attacking you but out of concern for your son- I just really doubt that he isn't catching on that something is not right with his dad. Please keep a close eye on your child, this is not stuff for kids!
What a horrible thing you are living with! I remember the parts I closely relate to and don't know how I survived it for so long- 6 years. He's been sober for almost a year now thanks to agreeing to go to rehab and grabbing onto the program with both hands.
My personal opinion is that your husband can't stop on his own, even if he truly wanted to. At least, couldn't stop for good. I'm getting that based off his belief that he can control it with all the evidence saying that he can't. Also that he doesn't believe he's an alcoholic, despite the evidence. The broken "agreements" really- the totality of the situation. I've been known to be wrong but, that's my opinion.
My question, I guess is, if that is true- what's your next step? That- I certainly can not answer for you. As no one can.
*big hugs* I've been there. It's the worst pain, the biggest loneliness, the largest weight (and anger, and helplessness, and defeat and so on...) Best to you, you have our support in any decisions you make!
I have experienced the same behavior, living with this rollercoaster for 18 years. It doesn't matter if his alcoholic problem is rooted in his family, even if it is, so what? How does it help the situation? We are the wife, not the counselor he refused to consult.
This is what I learned over the years, called it self preservation. First, as long as he doesn't believe he has a problem, he will deny it to the end of time. No intervention, nag or force from others will work on them. They have to come to their own conclusion that they have a problem and seek help themselves. In their mind, it is our problems, he doesn't have a problem, and therefore he doesn't need any fixing. He simply doesn't believe he needs help, he will not receive any help.
Don't let whatever insults he threw at you keeps you down for too long. It's not our fault, and we know it too. But to keep ourselves sane, don't even spend the mental energy to react to it, don't even border defend ourselves why he is wrong.
He will come to his own dismay. Either because you finally have fed up enough to take the kid and move back to your family or friends or even a shelter, he then wakes up to the situation. Or he will get so sick physically himself that he cannot work (trust me, this day will come, no human body can sustain the alcohol abuse forever), and start losing his financial, and material security and his ego is bruised. Or he got so sick he is facing death in his waking moment. But then when he gets better, he will do it again, because the thought of death is only a distant memory.
In my case, he had some serious stomach problem for a few weeks. And one-day last week, I just casually said this, "it's 1pm and you are still drinking. You haven't slept for two days, just drinking. One day you are just going to drop dead on your chair or on the couch." I wasn't even angry, I was like said that in a monotone. He said, "just let me do my thing, do I ever bother what you do?". And I said, "what if I behave like you, what if I drink like you?". That was all the conversation between us that day.
I don't know what was the magic words there. That late evening he got up, said he has a problem and he needed help. He found himself rehabs numbers and contacted them the next morning, called work and sort everything out himself. Without me saying a damn word.
No one can tell you what your next step should be, it is yours to decide. I didn't even know what my next step is, and what caused him to stop denying. Just remember, take care of yourself and your kid, only in a bit clear mind and enough mental energy will you be able to find supports. He needs to fix his own problem. No one else can.
Well...for the alcoholic it may give them just enough insight to look at their mess of a life and, for a moment, think it may not simply be their lot in life to be a complete moral failure waiting to die. It is scary as hell to be totally out of control.
The realization that there is some deeper very unsatisfied yearning that has always motivated the alcohol abuse can be a very liberating realization....and can open the door to admitting their life has become unmanageable and needs to change.
Besides that, if your husband is a functional alcoholic and still works and you want to leave, leave. They will not be given custody of the kids due to their addiction and they will have to pay you alimony and child support. My husband tried telling me that I would have to move out without the kids, but the courts will not give custody to them, because they aren't the main caregiver to the child or childen in most cases and they are not safe to be around and raise kids in a safe, healthy environment. Addicts will threaten, until they look into all of this themselves and realize that they will lose their family and precious money that they only want to spend on their addiction.