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TimLovesMelissa
Dreams of our loved ones can bring joy and comfort, but they can also bring pain and depression (I guess that would be considered a nightmare). I had a terrible dream last night that has knocked me down a several notches on the emotional scale today. Melissa and I were having some sort of disagreement, not a full blown fight or anything, but then it came time for me to leave and go somewhere. Our youngest son (who was only about 4 years old in the dream, hes 12 now) tried to follow me, but we explained that he had to stay there. As I was leaving, I had to walk past Melissa. As I was doing so, I approached her with my arms open, clearly looking for a hug. To my shock and horror she recoiled from me, blocking me with her arms in front of her. She had an expression on her face that said I cant handle this right now. That devastated me. I asked her if we could talk about this later and work it out. She nodded her head yes, but I could still see the pain in her eyes. That hurt me so much, I awoke at that point. This is what I am dealing with today. I hope it is not a harbinger of whats to come this weekend.
When I ask myself why I had a dream like this, the only thing that comes to mind is guilt. I realize that I have been working through a guilt stage off and on ever since Melissa died. To understand, you probably need some information about our situation.
Melissa had suffered from migraine headaches since her teenage years. It must be a hereditary thing, because her mother suffers from them, too (thought nothing near the frequency or severity that Melissa did). I believe it is the root problem of what caused her death. Her headaches were so bad, that she described it felt like someone was stabbing an ice pick behind her eye. This required, literally, over a thousand trips to emergency rooms and doctors offices. A lot of people do not understand what we went through, and the kind of toll it can take (financially and emotionally). We went through several doctors, most of which didnt try very hard, or really care. It was during this time that I lost my blind respect for doctors. I came to realize that doctors are just like any other profession, there are good ones, and bad ones. It just seemed like we had contact with a higher percentage of the bad ones. She had all kinds of tests, but they never found anything wrong with her. To help her cope, she was on several medications. The last five years of her life were the worst.
I wont go into every detail, but the headaches really strained our relationship. Im ashamed to admit that. It drove us to bankruptcy. Looking back in hindsight, I realize my priorities were all wrong. I was looking forward to retiring some day with her, and enjoying life. The headaches took away all that. Melissa could not work, and all the prescriptions and medical bills were too much for me. I was resigned to the fact that I would have to work the rest of my life. I resented the headaches. I resented Melissa sometimes because I felt like she wasnt trying hard enough to get better. I felt like she was just hoping to find a drug that would cure everything, instead of eating right, exercising, and just taking better care of herself. The headaches robbed us of our family life. There were many times when Melissa could not participate in our kids activities. She missed school and sporting events. I had to take them by myself. About 4 or 5 years ago we went to marriage counseling. I didnt think our relationship was in jeopardy, but I was open to making it better. I said something during one of those sessions that I thought I meant at the time, but looking back I realize I really did not. That hurt Melissa, and I regret ever saying that. I hope she can forgive me for that. A good thing that came out of counseling was that I was able to express to her that I was not upset with her, I was upset with the headaches.
The last few months of her life, I was feeling like I was learning to accept things the way they were. I felt I could handle being broke, possibly living with one set of our parents if needed, as long as we had each other. The day before she died, I was sitting in our big chair in the living room. She came over to me, leaned over, and gave me a hug. I turned her around and made her sit down in front of me (we were sharing the chair). I put my arms around her, and just held her for a while, kissing her on her neck every so often. I could tell that I really loved her at that moment, and I hope she knew that I loved her.
Sorry for the long, rambling post. I hope I didnt make anyone hate me for the way I acted in the past. Im human, and a far from perfect one at that. I know that Melissa was not perfect, either. But she was a lot closer than I ever was. I have learned very valuable lessons from all this, but what is heartbreaking is that I had to lose her to learn them. She is not around to share and experience what I have become, and I hate that.
When I ask myself why I had a dream like this, the only thing that comes to mind is guilt. I realize that I have been working through a guilt stage off and on ever since Melissa died. To understand, you probably need some information about our situation.
Melissa had suffered from migraine headaches since her teenage years. It must be a hereditary thing, because her mother suffers from them, too (thought nothing near the frequency or severity that Melissa did). I believe it is the root problem of what caused her death. Her headaches were so bad, that she described it felt like someone was stabbing an ice pick behind her eye. This required, literally, over a thousand trips to emergency rooms and doctors offices. A lot of people do not understand what we went through, and the kind of toll it can take (financially and emotionally). We went through several doctors, most of which didnt try very hard, or really care. It was during this time that I lost my blind respect for doctors. I came to realize that doctors are just like any other profession, there are good ones, and bad ones. It just seemed like we had contact with a higher percentage of the bad ones. She had all kinds of tests, but they never found anything wrong with her. To help her cope, she was on several medications. The last five years of her life were the worst.
I wont go into every detail, but the headaches really strained our relationship. Im ashamed to admit that. It drove us to bankruptcy. Looking back in hindsight, I realize my priorities were all wrong. I was looking forward to retiring some day with her, and enjoying life. The headaches took away all that. Melissa could not work, and all the prescriptions and medical bills were too much for me. I was resigned to the fact that I would have to work the rest of my life. I resented the headaches. I resented Melissa sometimes because I felt like she wasnt trying hard enough to get better. I felt like she was just hoping to find a drug that would cure everything, instead of eating right, exercising, and just taking better care of herself. The headaches robbed us of our family life. There were many times when Melissa could not participate in our kids activities. She missed school and sporting events. I had to take them by myself. About 4 or 5 years ago we went to marriage counseling. I didnt think our relationship was in jeopardy, but I was open to making it better. I said something during one of those sessions that I thought I meant at the time, but looking back I realize I really did not. That hurt Melissa, and I regret ever saying that. I hope she can forgive me for that. A good thing that came out of counseling was that I was able to express to her that I was not upset with her, I was upset with the headaches.
The last few months of her life, I was feeling like I was learning to accept things the way they were. I felt I could handle being broke, possibly living with one set of our parents if needed, as long as we had each other. The day before she died, I was sitting in our big chair in the living room. She came over to me, leaned over, and gave me a hug. I turned her around and made her sit down in front of me (we were sharing the chair). I put my arms around her, and just held her for a while, kissing her on her neck every so often. I could tell that I really loved her at that moment, and I hope she knew that I loved her.
Sorry for the long, rambling post. I hope I didnt make anyone hate me for the way I acted in the past. Im human, and a far from perfect one at that. I know that Melissa was not perfect, either. But she was a lot closer than I ever was. I have learned very valuable lessons from all this, but what is heartbreaking is that I had to lose her to learn them. She is not around to share and experience what I have become, and I hate that.
Most of us think what could I have done differently, what if's, analyze everything we did and beat ourselves up. We were hoping for a different outcome but it was not to be. I finally came to the conclusion after much soul searching, reading, and going on DS that I did the best I could at the time and with the information I had. I'm human and make mistakes but I did the best I could. I believe that most of the time.
You did the best you could too and she knew you loved her. I too have learned a lot from this experience and am a better person because of it. This is a difficult road we travel but DS friends are here for us. You are in my thoughts and prayers for peace. Take care, Sandra
And your right it takes a toll on us finacially and emotionally so much so that we just have to keep going and hoping and praying and sometimes it comes out when we can no longer hold it in, but remember we are only human and can only endure so much . I still deal with the finacial part every day but I have to say to myself ( and this has gotten me through a lot) There are others that have it worse off then me.
I hope you have a good day and remember...MelissalovesTim also
Hugs
Kath
All we can do is put one foot in front of the other, every day and take one day at a time. Melissa wouldn't have left you and your sons if she had a choice - she loved you then, she loves you still.
Hugs to you,
Chris
l suffered alot from anger,all of it directed at the doctors,nurses,l blamed everyone for Franks death,but after a while l resolved all the issues l had with it.l decided l couldn,t stop it happening,l did,t have the power to stop him from being sick,l did,t have the power to save him,all l could do was my best to look after him.
l always have dreams about Frank,most of them are nice dreams and in them he always confirms that he is well and happy,l had one dream though when he was shouting at me,thinking about it,l had a bad day,he appeared in the dream shouting at me that he was here,but his voice sounded so angry,maybe he doesn,t want me to be sad all the time,l don,t really know,but the dream did shake me up a bit for the rest of the day.
Sometimes dreams are not very logical,and some dreams do shake you up,but you did your best,and l,m sure your wife appreciated it,l,m sure if we could have changed things we would have,but we couldn,t.
take care
Alice
I am sorry you are having such a hard time, I hope you have peaceful days ahead.
Hugs,
Ron
What you are talking about sounds very normal to me. I am sorry that you are going through so much guilt, but it is so much a part of normal grief..
We all do the "if only's"...If only I had done this, then that may have not happened. If only I said this they would not have felt that.
The problems with hindsight is it is always 20/20 but the one thing we need to remember is that we were reacting in the moment based on our reality at that moment. If we could have all predicted the future, we may have done some things differently, but in the end we were only human, they were only human, and we do not know that we really would have changed the outcome in the end.
For whatever reason, it was there time to go. They did not want to leave us, and we did not want them gone, even if we thought that it was hard or said things we now regret, we would do anything to have them back.
Our dreams are trying to get our subconscious and our conscious minds on the same page. The process takes months and makes us sometimes have really strange dreams while it is happening.
Just know that you did make the right choices at the moments that you were making them and it is still so obvious how much you love Melissa. She was one very lucky woman, even though you were so human.
Your love for her will be with you in your heart forever. Hang on to that during these all so difficult days and please know that one step at a time, one breath at a time, it will become bearable some day.
hugs...
-Diana
I understand where you are coming from. I've thought of all the times that I was short tempered in the last few years. Joe knew how to push my buttons!! Sometimes he did it just to aggravate, sometimes because he was a little angry himself.
We had a tough time 12 years before he died and had to go to marriage counseling. We stayed together through love. As far as financial, there were some 'lean' times a few times in our marriage, but nothing that we couldn't overcome.
We can't go back and change those times that we were not 'perfect', and we won't be 'perfect' now. We are human afterall, and thank goodness God understands. Hugs, Joely
I don't know much about inturpreting dreams but it struck me when ready that maybe Melissa was discouraging you from getting too lost in your grief for your son. That she wanted you to live for him. Just my gut thought upon reading.
No, you don't sound like someone I would hate. You were a trooper for Melissa. Everyone gets upset when things aren't the way they want. You worked through all that, that is the good thing. Working with the challenges out of love for the person your with, going beyond what is a problem and making it through together. Hug, Donna
You wouldn't be normal if her health problems didn't have a huge impact upon your life because they did and would - but that is the way it is. People deal with things the best that they can at the time and I believe that those who care about us know and understand that. I look at this as a whole. Regardless of the problems later on caused by her illness or even comments or discussions, remember your life when you first met and life was better and that is the way you and Melissa both will look back upon your lives. It is not fair that Melissa had to endure that but it is also not fair that you had to also. I behaved ways I regret - but - I was stressed to the limit - and I believe my husband knows and understands that and I believe Melissa understands the circumstances you were under too. I'm talking in the present because I believe she understands that now too. Your name says "TimlovesMelissa" and that is all that matters. You have nothing to feel bad about.
As far as the dream - it is strange. I have never had a dream where anyone was younger.