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As for me, I've had pizza during both holidays. Most of the time, I treat them as if it's just another day.
Tru
The feast took a while to prepare -- on a wood stove during my early years. Times have surely changed. These days, the "kids" all have to eat first - as we well know. Not then. The MEN all went in and sat around the dining room table - which took all the chairs. We all stood around behind them while my grandad said the blessing. Then the children fixed plates (never paper)and went to one of the porches or wherever we could find a spot. The food was so good, we didn't care. The women usually ate in the kitchen amid the chaos of all the preparation debris. My grandmother was a wonderful cook, and I thought her food was the best on earth. She made a wicked caramel cake (6 layers) with home churned butter etc. Everything low cal!
I enjoyed every moment of those family gatherings. There was love and joy in abundance. I'm THANKFUL to have grown up with all those cousins. Some of us are still very close today. Some are brave enough to make that caramel cake, but everyone buys frozen coconut for the pies!
Doye
The men all sat first table. One of my uncles always said the blessing and then they women would fix plates for us children. We went and sat wherever we could using card tables and trays. The women ate only after the men....and I think they might have liked it like that because they could sit and talk and gossip after the men moved on to the football games in the living room. Might I add my grandparents home was heated by a coal stove...it just adds to the memory. If it was warm weather a game of horseshoes might be on for the afternoon.
The only exception in my youth was when we lived in Colorado Springs. My Mother worked as an auditor for the Air Force Academy and the first year cadets were not allowed to go home until Christmas then...not sure if that is the rule now. They would ask people in the community to host a cadet for Thanksgiving.The three years we were there my mother asked to bring two home for Kentucky. My father picked them up in the moring......they spent the day with us..happy to have a little contact with home..played with us kids...watched football with my Dad..and called their own families back home in Ky. ! Mopst of them kept in contact while in school since she worked there in a generals office... And one of them became a life long family friend who rose up in ranks. It also was one of the first lessons I remember well about sharing and doing for others. It was a different type of Hallmark holiday and I am grateful to have experienced it.
Since 2007 that group has gotten smaller and smaller. My parents now spend Thanksgiving in Florida, my FIL died in 2007 and we lost Stephen in April. This year, it wll just be my MIL, my son, his wife and me. We've opted to go to a nice restaurant where we can get all dressed up. My son and his wife will have lunch at noon with my MIL and I and dinner at my DIL's parents.
Christmas this year, is totally up in the air. I think I'm going to go stay at my son's for a couple of days. This holiday would be absoluetely brutal if it weren't for the fact that my DIL will deliver my first grandchild no later than New Year's Eve. That's making the holiday a time of joy instead of sorrow.
Holidays will never be the same....it remains to be seen what they will become in the future.
So, of course, I wanted our holidays to be like that! Mostly they were.
As the years progressed and Joe and I both lost our parents, we changed a few things. Mainly, the holidays changed places ~~ our home became the meeting place! I loved it, but, the stress factor was definitely there. I taught school and holidays are rather hectic at school. Everyone always brought dishes of food to help with dinner, so, it wasn't all on me. I did the turkey, and some other dishes.
Gradually, we combined my family and Joe's family for Thanksgiving. Christmas was different. My daddy always wanted us to open presents on the 24th. (Santa usually came on 23rd! Daddy wanted us to have our Christmas on both days.) Joe's Dad wanted to celebrate on the 25th ~ ONLY. Some of us daughter-in-laws tried to change it one yr (when he was still alive) and Joe's Dad was so upset about it, that we didn't do that again!!
Of course, my parents were church going, and non drinking; Joe's were not. So, on the 24th, after my parents celebration, Joe went to his parents house for their night before celebration party. That meant poker games and beer. I didn't enjoy that and seldom went. Most of the daughters-in-law didn't go. (5 boys/men in the family). The boys/men friends were there too. So, to me that was not a Hallmark Christmas tradition!! LOL
I've wanted to change this having a BIG deal at my house on both days, 24th and 25th, for a while now. Maybe I can this year. It is exhausting to have 2 days of it. One with my family and one with Joe's. It is just too hard with Joe gone.
Good topic.
As our daughters got older, old enough to handle the complete Thanks giving dinner, one year I told them it was their turn. The memories were priceless and by error when my daughter put the turkey in the pain upside down, I learned it so Moist and tender.
It's been a tradition ever since.
The most perfect Thanksgiving was the year my daughter got up early to help me. We always put our turkey in a cooking bag. That was the year we learned how NOT to put the turkey in the bag. We laughed so hard I thought we were going to pee our pants, as the turkey went into the bag and out the bottom with a loud KA-THONK on the floor. Now that's a perfect holiday when you have memories that make you smile, make you feel happy,
I like the bible scripture idea, I'll give some thought as to how,
It's been nice hearing all the feedback on this topic, Great post.
Heartbrokin
Blessings...Kaaren
The favorite holiday of Richard and I seemed to be Thanksgiving, for it was about family, laughter and eating a great turkey dinner. Christmas is dissapointing, for it is nothing today like it was when we were children, and too much emphasis is placed on material objects and spending. Our pet peeve was the blow up lawn decorations. Please! Decorations when we were small were the big bulb lights on the house, a live wreath on the door, a real tree, tinsel, the paper thin ornaments, gingerbread cookies, and candy canes.
I love Christmas because it is the Lord's birth, but I also hate Christmas for the holiday it has become.