I think we get recycled...into what who knows. Yet, when one of my patients told me if there is anything after death if at all possible she will let me know with a big bang..it happened to me a few nights ago now. Thought someone broke into my house...nothing had fallen either...guess we will never know till we die. We will be going back to where we came from.

Yeesh Nebby, I thought I had a bit of anger!

Rick, I'm so sorry for the hurt your loss has caused. I too felt very angry. I wanted more years with My love. For me , the grieving caused me to seek peace. It took time. The strength came with returning to my faith. I wish you well with however you're comfortable. Dolores

Babochka, I too am curious about your OBE. It must have been awesome to come back. Dolores

Thank you regwin for your empathy. MET1974, I hope your remarks are not directed towards myself as the originating poster.

my loss of decency is permanent, my love for jean was a gift. we were the good guys all our life, she was a nurse above all nurses,i shed blood for my country. for better or worse,richer and poorer, in sickness and in health we raised 4 great children. put them through college without any loans. when times were hard jean baked bread and made potato soup, when things wre good we lived like kings. all of this led us to this old house by the beach, a just reward for doing the next right thing. then in death we did part. i do get angry at all the shitheads who skated by. life should have treated that girl better.to met1974 once upon a time, jean saw a ring at a local shop. she would never buy something like that for herself. on a later visit, the ring was gone.the shopkeeper told her"a gentlemen had just purchased it". not being married to a gentleman, she thought she would never see it again. on november 16.2016, the hospice nurse helped me take it off finger so fuck the fuck off!!!!

I think this site attempts to be a place of healing and support. When I first joined almost 2 years ago, several months after losing my husband there were many opinions and input on various situations. I found it helpful to see that others had walked this path and survived. In fact it was crucial for me to know this. I was in so much pain and felt like I could not go on not knowing where my husband was and how I would be without him. I loved him for 33 years, continue to do so and he is still so very much a part of me. The pain is there but most of the time I am ok. I no longer cry every day, sometimes not even once in a week. I engage in life all while missing him every day. We all understand the gut wrenching pain every one of us endures losing our loves. What we should avoid is inflicting further pain on one another. Let's be the ones to offer love, yea we should be free to vent, of course, we need to unload and not be judged. But we should understand this is a public forum and try to be sensitive to others. Both believers and non-believers can be respectful and while an occasional obscenity is understandable some emotions may be better expressed in a private journal which you can access here. Just don't ask me how, I have no clue. Lol. Hoping today is a better one for us all

Rick51:

Thanks, but I don't want any part of a God or Supreme Being that picks and chooses who lives and who dies, and how painfully they die. This not a perfect world and universe. More of a cosmic joke I would say.

I respect your thoughts and your decisions! We all are here for a moment and we all have to figure out what it is that helps us get through the tough times because we all have them. I do hope I did not offend you in any way. I do wish you healing, health, and happiness as you walk your way through your grief.

Thanks sunnyface and good luck with your grief.

Thank you Rick51!

If this what if is true, then isn't it kind of like when a car is sent to the scrap yard to be scrapped? That will be the end of that car, its existence in this world is no more, even for Kia with Soul.

If so, wouldn't life be as simple as just go get another car (new or preloved) if you can't do without one to get by from day to day?

But we all seems to have this same 'gut feel' that it is unlikely to be true. Is that why we all similarly grief and mourn? Is that our way to 'tell' our loved ones we still missed them terribly and in continuum?

So what if this "grim thought" is not from the dark places but defense mechanism activated to alert you of your drift towards it?

Everybody here is in a lot of pain. Maybe we can identify with the fact that it is horrible for each one of us, no matter how else we are different.
Honestly Rick, anytime a speculative discussion post like this is made, it turns into a volatile display of every spectrum in this world. Doesn't bother me much. I can be as angry (& sometimes crass) as anyone else, but also tender hearted as any.! Depends on a billion variables on my plate, mood. and most of all: pain.
It would help SO much if the Admin could make "optional icons" for members to use in discussion TITLES, which we could include (or exclude) for the purpose of repliers knowing individual preferences about certain "belief" preferences...and maybe other issues. To me, that would be preferable to outright censorship & law enforcement. I honestly think most people don't want to offend or hurt or anger other members. but there are exceptions to every idyllic assumption. (Lol) and so on we go, being stellar examples of humanity on the loose and in conflict. Ain't it cool? haha.
Want to switch to politics? O no, maybe not ;-)
B.

In the old days, there was a reminder under the reply box to "promise to be nice" in your reply. Maybe we should bring that back! It's not appropriate to trash other people on the board. Yes, anger is a part of grief, and it can be hard to control, but please don't unleash it on the others on this board. It is still considered abuse and can get you banned from the site.

@Rick, you may wish to get a copy of a book entitled "Comforting Thoughts About Death That Have Nothing to Do with God" by Greta Christina. My widowed sister is agnostic/atheist, and she found it helpful. Amazon has it, but always check your local public library first - they may have it.

As soon as questions about after-life come up, the discussions can get very heated. This topic touches on deeply held beliefs - with or without the divine in the picture. Please everybody, respect each other's choices, and recognize that nothing you say here is going to change anyone's mind one way or the other when it comes to faith/belief/philosophy. After ten years here, I can assure you that it never works that way. Never.

Thanks.

Love and Hugs,
Martha, co-Community Leader