Victims of Psychopaths Community Group
Is he or she a sociopath or psychopath? Think we're only talking about serial killers here? Psychopaths, sociopaths and even narcissists come in every walk of life, every career level, and every socio-economic category.
turkeyprincess
how do I get someone to help me without my father getting involved and convincing them im crazy.
that has been the cause of all of my problems for the past 10 years. im 30 now but anytime since ive been an adult that I asked anyone to help me, he has either scared them away and told them to get away from me and don't talk to me again, he threatened people such as old friends of mine.
or he manipulates them and lies to get them to think im crazy and that the real problem is that I need psychiatric help. he convinces everyone I have tried to help me, that im schitzophrenic and desperately need psychiatric medication and mental hospital stay.
even tho that's not the case and his stories got me nowhere in life and stuck since then since age 18.
im stuck the same as an adult in the house with my parents since age 18
im 30 now but ive been controlled my whole adult life, infantilized forced to live under control from them so I don't feel independent and confident like other 30 yr olds. its like im starting over. they forced me to live under crazy rules such as them chosing food for me and not allowing a lot of things even teenagers are allowed. they told people I need permission for everything.
they even would call up the local stores when ive been homebound and tell them some story and tell the stores I need permission from my parents first before I can call or order anything. so the store made my parents call each time to give permission, even at my age
I don't know whats going on but my parents tell me that gthey are still raising me, they say things about that I have to be disciplined by them, and my mother threatened to walk out and leave last week after some argument with my older sister and my father is telling me if she leaves I will have to grow up without a mother in the house
I don't think a person who is 30 is growing up, or being raised or supposed to be disciplined by their parents. either my parents don't understand age or they are in a time warp and think its 1994 still and that im underage.
or maybe they pretend its still the 1990s and that im a young kid in order to control me? they are very controlling to me even more controlling sometimes now than they were when I was 12
I don't know if that's a thing that happened before, parents infantilizing and controlling their adult children in their 20s and 30s. its strange. and I tried to stand up to them always because I have asked them to treat me as an adult for years and they never listen and they use threats
my parents impose their fanatical ideas on me and ive been forced to live like that, almost like someone from Saudi Arabia who has to have permission for every aspect from life
I have tried to be independent but my parents are 2 steps ahead of every move. they managed to block my every way out for years by telling everyone that im crazy. they told me no one will believe you because they think you are crazy
I think that's a way they have tried to get me to stay at home
I know both of my parents lived with their parents and siblings until they got married
anyways I want to get someone to come over to help me , either pick me up to take me to the hospital without my parents knowing, or some agency or social work organization to help me and get me out of the home and independence
how do I get anyone to listen to me and actually help me this time. because usually they ask to speak to my parents and when they do it is over for me. my parents convince them that im crazy and don't need any help or that the real story is that I need mental help and need to be in a psych hospital on medication and that im schitzophrenic.
then the person is convinced by my parents that im schitzophrenic. my father usually is the one that tells them the lies and stories to make it look like im schitzophrenic and mentally unstable or danger to myself and others. my mother goes along with the stories. no one stands up for me.
my mother has some mental problems, my older sister tells me she thinks she has bipolar because of the mood swings, angry rages, manic behavior but she also acts self centered with no empathy and narcissistic and dosnt show remorse 99 percent of all situations. so I don't know if she is some type of psychopath.
maybe she has another personality disorder that is a lower level of psychopath or low empathy for others
but my father is a psychopath and lies on purpose and manipulates everyone and does things on purpose. he goes to court always for many different reasons to sue different people and he wins 99 percent of the court cases. he holds grudges over small things that happened 2 decades ago and looks to get revenge for those things
even if he is wrong and the other person is not at fault, he convinces any judge.
im scared because each time I tell my story to someone and ask them for help. then they speak to my father and he adds horrible details or makes the situation seem different and convinces the person not to help me and that instead they should help him commit me to a psych hospital
I think he does the thing to get revenge at me for attempting to go away to be independent.
I don't know why. he would call up doctors and professionals and tell them false information about me.
I was in the emergency room because I stepped on something and hurt my foot by accident on a cat food can when walking. and he uses any opportunity when im in the emergency room to try to get me commited or give out fake information to doctors. he called the head nurse of the emergency room when I was there to tell them fake information about me that I have diabetes and that I was suicidal and other things.
I don't have diabetes. and I was not suicidal. I wasn't a danger to myself or other
he gives out other fake information other times to doctors , he called the emergency room other times and told them I didn't take my medication for the day and he told them the name of some medication that I was not prescribed and never took before. he made up a fake dose too but he knows many things about certain medications. he reads things on medications
he told them don't listen to me and to give me my medication , so he convinced them without them checking or calling any doctor to see if I was on that medication.
and they forced me to take the medication and I was allergic to it and had a severe allergic reaction and my jaw became paralyzed for a day from it and I broke 4 teeth in the back by the jaw from trying to open my jaw. so those teeth are lost and need to be replaces, root canals, implant
because my father thought it would be funny to lie to them to tell them to give me medication im allergic to and wasn't prescribed
I had to go get shots of Benadryl at another hospital after I left the er because I had a severe allergic reaction
he gets people to believe anything and to put my life in danger. even medical professionals who are supposed to look out for me
they don't even double check what he says to them to make sure its true. he can convince anyone
I might be able to sue these hospitals or even sue my parents for neglect and for the years of abuse and lies
but in the meantime I need to get someone to help me get out of the situation. but I need to find out how to get people to listen to me finally for once
without my father getting involved to tell them that im crazy so they don't help me
I cant sue anyone yet until I get safe away in a place that I can be on my own and recover from my medical problem. I cant deal with any lawsuit until I recover from my serious medical illness.
but I can only recover if I go out of the house to stay in another place. I cant live in any group setting or around others because my illness can be contagious if I share any bathroom or living areas. right now im confined to a separate designated room in the house with the door closed and separate bathroom nearby. and my room upstairs
also because of my illness and the tiredness, lethargic weakness I was not able to look out for myself or clean my room for the last 3 yrs. when I asked for help no one at home would listen to me. so my room got very messy over time, piles of stuff, clothes on floor,etc. because I had no one to help me. I also had a tia stroke last year from my illness so I was severely tired after for months and could not do anything.
so im afraid my father will tell people about that and blame it on "schitzophrenia" even tho its not that its that I was severely sick for years and too tired , weak to look after things or pick things up. I had mobility issues too
and he might use that as another excuse against me to get people to think im insane.
it sounds strange from the outside like why is a 30 yr old afraid of her parents. my parents are in their mid and late 60s.
but from my point of view ive been through a lot of things and have had a medical problem the last almost 5 yrs and another thing before that . and my parents are different than other parents and more manipulative and controlling than others. so I have never been able to stand up to them. even when I attempted to. but standing up to a person who has no remorse and is psychopathic dosnt help that causes more issues
from everything ive been through I didn't get to go through life and learn things and make mistakes and chose things for myself so im not a confident adult even tho in some ways im more wise and mature than people my age and I seem more like 50 some days or in certain situations
I think I will always be afraid of my parents even when they are 90. but the best thing I can do is distance myself from them and stay away from their threats. i think they are the type of people who will try to control me and make me cry until the last chance they get even when they are 95 or until they get alzheimers and forget who i am. who knows, but i think i will never have any normal relationship to my parents, they will never accept me or think im good enough. they always tell me they hate me. they know what to say to get me to be scared or upset. they even know what things to say to bring back my ptsd from all the things they did to me
i think people don't understand if i say im scared of them or cant stand up for myself. but not everyone will understand the situation.
according to my other siblings guidance counselor at her school a few years ago when she was in highschool after she met my parents she said to my sister that they are the most controlling and at the same time neglectful parents she has ever seen in her entire 20 yr career at the school. they don't help you or let you do things to improve yourself but at the same time they control you to stop you from bettering things
that has been the cause of all of my problems for the past 10 years. im 30 now but anytime since ive been an adult that I asked anyone to help me, he has either scared them away and told them to get away from me and don't talk to me again, he threatened people such as old friends of mine.
or he manipulates them and lies to get them to think im crazy and that the real problem is that I need psychiatric help. he convinces everyone I have tried to help me, that im schitzophrenic and desperately need psychiatric medication and mental hospital stay.
even tho that's not the case and his stories got me nowhere in life and stuck since then since age 18.
im stuck the same as an adult in the house with my parents since age 18
im 30 now but ive been controlled my whole adult life, infantilized forced to live under control from them so I don't feel independent and confident like other 30 yr olds. its like im starting over. they forced me to live under crazy rules such as them chosing food for me and not allowing a lot of things even teenagers are allowed. they told people I need permission for everything.
they even would call up the local stores when ive been homebound and tell them some story and tell the stores I need permission from my parents first before I can call or order anything. so the store made my parents call each time to give permission, even at my age
I don't know whats going on but my parents tell me that gthey are still raising me, they say things about that I have to be disciplined by them, and my mother threatened to walk out and leave last week after some argument with my older sister and my father is telling me if she leaves I will have to grow up without a mother in the house
I don't think a person who is 30 is growing up, or being raised or supposed to be disciplined by their parents. either my parents don't understand age or they are in a time warp and think its 1994 still and that im underage.
or maybe they pretend its still the 1990s and that im a young kid in order to control me? they are very controlling to me even more controlling sometimes now than they were when I was 12
I don't know if that's a thing that happened before, parents infantilizing and controlling their adult children in their 20s and 30s. its strange. and I tried to stand up to them always because I have asked them to treat me as an adult for years and they never listen and they use threats
my parents impose their fanatical ideas on me and ive been forced to live like that, almost like someone from Saudi Arabia who has to have permission for every aspect from life
I have tried to be independent but my parents are 2 steps ahead of every move. they managed to block my every way out for years by telling everyone that im crazy. they told me no one will believe you because they think you are crazy
I think that's a way they have tried to get me to stay at home
I know both of my parents lived with their parents and siblings until they got married
anyways I want to get someone to come over to help me , either pick me up to take me to the hospital without my parents knowing, or some agency or social work organization to help me and get me out of the home and independence
how do I get anyone to listen to me and actually help me this time. because usually they ask to speak to my parents and when they do it is over for me. my parents convince them that im crazy and don't need any help or that the real story is that I need mental help and need to be in a psych hospital on medication and that im schitzophrenic.
then the person is convinced by my parents that im schitzophrenic. my father usually is the one that tells them the lies and stories to make it look like im schitzophrenic and mentally unstable or danger to myself and others. my mother goes along with the stories. no one stands up for me.
my mother has some mental problems, my older sister tells me she thinks she has bipolar because of the mood swings, angry rages, manic behavior but she also acts self centered with no empathy and narcissistic and dosnt show remorse 99 percent of all situations. so I don't know if she is some type of psychopath.
maybe she has another personality disorder that is a lower level of psychopath or low empathy for others
but my father is a psychopath and lies on purpose and manipulates everyone and does things on purpose. he goes to court always for many different reasons to sue different people and he wins 99 percent of the court cases. he holds grudges over small things that happened 2 decades ago and looks to get revenge for those things
even if he is wrong and the other person is not at fault, he convinces any judge.
im scared because each time I tell my story to someone and ask them for help. then they speak to my father and he adds horrible details or makes the situation seem different and convinces the person not to help me and that instead they should help him commit me to a psych hospital
I think he does the thing to get revenge at me for attempting to go away to be independent.
I don't know why. he would call up doctors and professionals and tell them false information about me.
I was in the emergency room because I stepped on something and hurt my foot by accident on a cat food can when walking. and he uses any opportunity when im in the emergency room to try to get me commited or give out fake information to doctors. he called the head nurse of the emergency room when I was there to tell them fake information about me that I have diabetes and that I was suicidal and other things.
I don't have diabetes. and I was not suicidal. I wasn't a danger to myself or other
he gives out other fake information other times to doctors , he called the emergency room other times and told them I didn't take my medication for the day and he told them the name of some medication that I was not prescribed and never took before. he made up a fake dose too but he knows many things about certain medications. he reads things on medications
he told them don't listen to me and to give me my medication , so he convinced them without them checking or calling any doctor to see if I was on that medication.
and they forced me to take the medication and I was allergic to it and had a severe allergic reaction and my jaw became paralyzed for a day from it and I broke 4 teeth in the back by the jaw from trying to open my jaw. so those teeth are lost and need to be replaces, root canals, implant
because my father thought it would be funny to lie to them to tell them to give me medication im allergic to and wasn't prescribed
I had to go get shots of Benadryl at another hospital after I left the er because I had a severe allergic reaction
he gets people to believe anything and to put my life in danger. even medical professionals who are supposed to look out for me
they don't even double check what he says to them to make sure its true. he can convince anyone
I might be able to sue these hospitals or even sue my parents for neglect and for the years of abuse and lies
but in the meantime I need to get someone to help me get out of the situation. but I need to find out how to get people to listen to me finally for once
without my father getting involved to tell them that im crazy so they don't help me
I cant sue anyone yet until I get safe away in a place that I can be on my own and recover from my medical problem. I cant deal with any lawsuit until I recover from my serious medical illness.
but I can only recover if I go out of the house to stay in another place. I cant live in any group setting or around others because my illness can be contagious if I share any bathroom or living areas. right now im confined to a separate designated room in the house with the door closed and separate bathroom nearby. and my room upstairs
also because of my illness and the tiredness, lethargic weakness I was not able to look out for myself or clean my room for the last 3 yrs. when I asked for help no one at home would listen to me. so my room got very messy over time, piles of stuff, clothes on floor,etc. because I had no one to help me. I also had a tia stroke last year from my illness so I was severely tired after for months and could not do anything.
so im afraid my father will tell people about that and blame it on "schitzophrenia" even tho its not that its that I was severely sick for years and too tired , weak to look after things or pick things up. I had mobility issues too
and he might use that as another excuse against me to get people to think im insane.
it sounds strange from the outside like why is a 30 yr old afraid of her parents. my parents are in their mid and late 60s.
but from my point of view ive been through a lot of things and have had a medical problem the last almost 5 yrs and another thing before that . and my parents are different than other parents and more manipulative and controlling than others. so I have never been able to stand up to them. even when I attempted to. but standing up to a person who has no remorse and is psychopathic dosnt help that causes more issues
from everything ive been through I didn't get to go through life and learn things and make mistakes and chose things for myself so im not a confident adult even tho in some ways im more wise and mature than people my age and I seem more like 50 some days or in certain situations
I think I will always be afraid of my parents even when they are 90. but the best thing I can do is distance myself from them and stay away from their threats. i think they are the type of people who will try to control me and make me cry until the last chance they get even when they are 95 or until they get alzheimers and forget who i am. who knows, but i think i will never have any normal relationship to my parents, they will never accept me or think im good enough. they always tell me they hate me. they know what to say to get me to be scared or upset. they even know what things to say to bring back my ptsd from all the things they did to me
i think people don't understand if i say im scared of them or cant stand up for myself. but not everyone will understand the situation.
according to my other siblings guidance counselor at her school a few years ago when she was in highschool after she met my parents she said to my sister that they are the most controlling and at the same time neglectful parents she has ever seen in her entire 20 yr career at the school. they don't help you or let you do things to improve yourself but at the same time they control you to stop you from bettering things
This actually helped me with my crazy neighbor situation. . I posted things on the police website, they told me what to do to get my ducks in a row, and now things are on the way to becoming better. Not perfect. but better. It was a desperate way to get my side heard.
http://www.advocatesforjustice.net/civil-rights/
I don't know if this will help you at all. ive been trying to think of places where you could get some help or answers as to how to get your rights back.
they do have free lawyers who will speak to you that you could explain what has happened to you and your situation. its a start anyways, I hope it help you find the help you need to get your rights back. ill keep looking for you and let you know what else I can find. good luck and don't give up. hugs to u
I know if I do the wrong thing or try to make a sudden escape it could put me in danger of being put away into a psych ward again. that is what my father uses to control me. and my mother pretends to have nothing to do with it but she is involved with that too.
then once they put me away my parents use that as a way to control and puppet me by calling the psychiatrists and nurse desk like 20 times a day to discuss me and give fake info on me, or coming down there to pick out which psych drugs they want me to be taking.
when in reality its all a game to them. its not a surprise that im sick today after all the drugs they put me on from a young age, anyones health would be ruined.
they can convince anyone of anything including police, judged, forensic psychologists,hospital directors,newspaper reporters, and everyone.
anything I say even the truth makes me sound crazy. if I say im mistreated by my parents that's more evidence for them to say im insane.
if I say they are lying that is more evidence for them to say im crazy
so no one wants to listen to me.
and my parents get very bored and they are always planning things against me ,behind the scenes being sneaky to stir up negative drama, because im their main supply and I know eventually they will do a devalue dump and discard of me and what they do then will probably be big and make sure I suffer for life.
I have heard my mother recently tell me she is thinking of forcing me to marry a man she knows from the community. and forced marriage does happen in our religious community even in the usa but in anither neighborhood. but there is a mentally handicapped man I think hes borderline autistic or mentally ill. and my fathers sister has been talking about him trying to arrange for me to be with him. I have never met him
but I have a bad feeling that my parents can basically kidnap me lock me in a car, have me drugged or commited and then drugged and bribe me to force me to agree to meet this crazy man. the mans parents have asked my parents if their crazy daughter can marry their mentally disabled son. I don't know how mentally disabled the man is. but I can imagine that my parents would human traffic me and I could become a rape victim because I don't want to marry anyone at this time and not anyone my parents are involved with or a mentally ill guy.
my parents describe me to people as a naïve dumb or retarded mentally handicapped crazy person with no potential. they are delusional. but as you can imagine how delusional psychopaths become. they need to think up of new realities to fit what they want..
my parents went to some hotel thing like 2 months ago and when they got back they both told me on the phone that "your getting married this year" and I said to them to whom im not dating anyone and im sick and in no condition to date anyone.
and they were talking to me like they are certain they know im getting married . even tho ive never been on a date. so the only person I can think of is the mentally ill son of the people my parents know.
I don't know what my parents might be plotting but I do know my rights. even tho religious cults, amish people, polygamists, muslims , orthodox jews do have arranged and forced marriages.
my parents are really out of their mind, I wonder if they are possessed or something by something evil. its really scary
they don't even care about me, but psychopaths don't have real emotions and compassion for anyone.
i need to find the right person and make a plan. because its horrible
i need to find people who can listen to me, who will believe me.
maybe some type of lawyer.. im over stressed. i think one tactic to weaken me emotionally is too cause me too much stress and to create new drama situations every other week so that i have too much to deal with.
maybe they see im no longer good supply for them because ive caught on to them being psychopaths recently this year and i stopped doing most of their games. so they are planning some kind of devalue and discard for me, or some serious permanent damage to my life.....
as all psychopaths do in any supply situation
they already ruined my health by drugging me on harmul psychiatric pills from when i was very young and a teenager. after i took those pills i was never the same and began to get serious health problems appearing from nowhere and tiredness.
i have some autoimmune issue and i think it might be lupus so i have to get tested but i know its not genetic in my case and it can be caused by certain medications
i started to get physically sick way back as a teenager at like 14 when they began drugging me on psych pills. and i didn't connect it to my health as an adult. maybe its a reaction from the medication they forced me to take for no reason while they were telling everyone i was crazy.
i even thought they have munchausens by proxy which is a disorder when parents fake that their child has a physical or mental illness, for sympathy and attention and from boredom. and they go as far as drugging those kids or making them physically sick to try to prove something is wrong and then they go doctor shopping to look for attention from all the doctors and hospital staff
i remember my mother opening the door for the grocery delivery person and telling them her story about me how her daughter is mentally ill and she was saying things for pity from him. from random people also from a repairman once and anyone she can tell.
i found index cards one day with stuff written on them that my parents compiled of lies to tell to the psychiatrist of the psych ward i was at as a teenager. it was shocking because none of what they wrote was near true.
its horrible its almost demon ish. you would think only the devil does this stuff to people. who can do all of that and not feel remorse or concern
i became shy and developed social anxiety from the mistreatment so ive always had a problem speaking up for myself.and probably ptsd from what they did. so they did everything to make me look insane and make sure no one listened to anything
thanks for being supportive guys. Ive been ranting and over emotional but anyways....ill be constructive and make a plan and organize the resources.
I don't want to offend and say perhaps you're in a cult or something / again, not trying to offend, just to help.
My mind really starts working and I even wonder if there's a "Flowers in the Attic" thing going on, like maybe even poisoning he food. Anytihng is possible.
Maybe contact a cult rescue group.
If you keep posting but do nothing people could start thinking it's a hoax.
I'm definitely not saying it is, but here you have a rapt audience of concerned people who will go out of their way to help you.