Victims of Psychopaths Community Group
Is he or she a sociopath or psychopath? Think we're only talking about serial killers here? Psychopaths, sociopaths and even narcissists come in every walk of life, every career level, and every socio-economic category.
turkeyprincess
how do I get someone to help me without my father getting involved and convincing them im crazy.
that has been the cause of all of my problems for the past 10 years. im 30 now but anytime since ive been an adult that I asked anyone to help me, he has either scared them away and told them to get away from me and don't talk to me again, he threatened people such as old friends of mine.
or he manipulates them and lies to get them to think im crazy and that the real problem is that I need psychiatric help. he convinces everyone I have tried to help me, that im schitzophrenic and desperately need psychiatric medication and mental hospital stay.
even tho that's not the case and his stories got me nowhere in life and stuck since then since age 18.
im stuck the same as an adult in the house with my parents since age 18
im 30 now but ive been controlled my whole adult life, infantilized forced to live under control from them so I don't feel independent and confident like other 30 yr olds. its like im starting over. they forced me to live under crazy rules such as them chosing food for me and not allowing a lot of things even teenagers are allowed. they told people I need permission for everything.
they even would call up the local stores when ive been homebound and tell them some story and tell the stores I need permission from my parents first before I can call or order anything. so the store made my parents call each time to give permission, even at my age
I don't know whats going on but my parents tell me that gthey are still raising me, they say things about that I have to be disciplined by them, and my mother threatened to walk out and leave last week after some argument with my older sister and my father is telling me if she leaves I will have to grow up without a mother in the house
I don't think a person who is 30 is growing up, or being raised or supposed to be disciplined by their parents. either my parents don't understand age or they are in a time warp and think its 1994 still and that im underage.
or maybe they pretend its still the 1990s and that im a young kid in order to control me? they are very controlling to me even more controlling sometimes now than they were when I was 12
I don't know if that's a thing that happened before, parents infantilizing and controlling their adult children in their 20s and 30s. its strange. and I tried to stand up to them always because I have asked them to treat me as an adult for years and they never listen and they use threats
my parents impose their fanatical ideas on me and ive been forced to live like that, almost like someone from Saudi Arabia who has to have permission for every aspect from life
I have tried to be independent but my parents are 2 steps ahead of every move. they managed to block my every way out for years by telling everyone that im crazy. they told me no one will believe you because they think you are crazy
I think that's a way they have tried to get me to stay at home
I know both of my parents lived with their parents and siblings until they got married
anyways I want to get someone to come over to help me , either pick me up to take me to the hospital without my parents knowing, or some agency or social work organization to help me and get me out of the home and independence
how do I get anyone to listen to me and actually help me this time. because usually they ask to speak to my parents and when they do it is over for me. my parents convince them that im crazy and don't need any help or that the real story is that I need mental help and need to be in a psych hospital on medication and that im schitzophrenic.
then the person is convinced by my parents that im schitzophrenic. my father usually is the one that tells them the lies and stories to make it look like im schitzophrenic and mentally unstable or danger to myself and others. my mother goes along with the stories. no one stands up for me.
my mother has some mental problems, my older sister tells me she thinks she has bipolar because of the mood swings, angry rages, manic behavior but she also acts self centered with no empathy and narcissistic and dosnt show remorse 99 percent of all situations. so I don't know if she is some type of psychopath.
maybe she has another personality disorder that is a lower level of psychopath or low empathy for others
but my father is a psychopath and lies on purpose and manipulates everyone and does things on purpose. he goes to court always for many different reasons to sue different people and he wins 99 percent of the court cases. he holds grudges over small things that happened 2 decades ago and looks to get revenge for those things
even if he is wrong and the other person is not at fault, he convinces any judge.
im scared because each time I tell my story to someone and ask them for help. then they speak to my father and he adds horrible details or makes the situation seem different and convinces the person not to help me and that instead they should help him commit me to a psych hospital
I think he does the thing to get revenge at me for attempting to go away to be independent.
I don't know why. he would call up doctors and professionals and tell them false information about me.
I was in the emergency room because I stepped on something and hurt my foot by accident on a cat food can when walking. and he uses any opportunity when im in the emergency room to try to get me commited or give out fake information to doctors. he called the head nurse of the emergency room when I was there to tell them fake information about me that I have diabetes and that I was suicidal and other things.
I don't have diabetes. and I was not suicidal. I wasn't a danger to myself or other
he gives out other fake information other times to doctors , he called the emergency room other times and told them I didn't take my medication for the day and he told them the name of some medication that I was not prescribed and never took before. he made up a fake dose too but he knows many things about certain medications. he reads things on medications
he told them don't listen to me and to give me my medication , so he convinced them without them checking or calling any doctor to see if I was on that medication.
and they forced me to take the medication and I was allergic to it and had a severe allergic reaction and my jaw became paralyzed for a day from it and I broke 4 teeth in the back by the jaw from trying to open my jaw. so those teeth are lost and need to be replaces, root canals, implant
because my father thought it would be funny to lie to them to tell them to give me medication im allergic to and wasn't prescribed
I had to go get shots of Benadryl at another hospital after I left the er because I had a severe allergic reaction
he gets people to believe anything and to put my life in danger. even medical professionals who are supposed to look out for me
they don't even double check what he says to them to make sure its true. he can convince anyone
I might be able to sue these hospitals or even sue my parents for neglect and for the years of abuse and lies
but in the meantime I need to get someone to help me get out of the situation. but I need to find out how to get people to listen to me finally for once
without my father getting involved to tell them that im crazy so they don't help me
I cant sue anyone yet until I get safe away in a place that I can be on my own and recover from my medical problem. I cant deal with any lawsuit until I recover from my serious medical illness.
but I can only recover if I go out of the house to stay in another place. I cant live in any group setting or around others because my illness can be contagious if I share any bathroom or living areas. right now im confined to a separate designated room in the house with the door closed and separate bathroom nearby. and my room upstairs
also because of my illness and the tiredness, lethargic weakness I was not able to look out for myself or clean my room for the last 3 yrs. when I asked for help no one at home would listen to me. so my room got very messy over time, piles of stuff, clothes on floor,etc. because I had no one to help me. I also had a tia stroke last year from my illness so I was severely tired after for months and could not do anything.
so im afraid my father will tell people about that and blame it on "schitzophrenia" even tho its not that its that I was severely sick for years and too tired , weak to look after things or pick things up. I had mobility issues too
and he might use that as another excuse against me to get people to think im insane.
it sounds strange from the outside like why is a 30 yr old afraid of her parents. my parents are in their mid and late 60s.
but from my point of view ive been through a lot of things and have had a medical problem the last almost 5 yrs and another thing before that . and my parents are different than other parents and more manipulative and controlling than others. so I have never been able to stand up to them. even when I attempted to. but standing up to a person who has no remorse and is psychopathic dosnt help that causes more issues
from everything ive been through I didn't get to go through life and learn things and make mistakes and chose things for myself so im not a confident adult even tho in some ways im more wise and mature than people my age and I seem more like 50 some days or in certain situations
I think I will always be afraid of my parents even when they are 90. but the best thing I can do is distance myself from them and stay away from their threats. i think they are the type of people who will try to control me and make me cry until the last chance they get even when they are 95 or until they get alzheimers and forget who i am. who knows, but i think i will never have any normal relationship to my parents, they will never accept me or think im good enough. they always tell me they hate me. they know what to say to get me to be scared or upset. they even know what things to say to bring back my ptsd from all the things they did to me
i think people don't understand if i say im scared of them or cant stand up for myself. but not everyone will understand the situation.
according to my other siblings guidance counselor at her school a few years ago when she was in highschool after she met my parents she said to my sister that they are the most controlling and at the same time neglectful parents she has ever seen in her entire 20 yr career at the school. they don't help you or let you do things to improve yourself but at the same time they control you to stop you from bettering things
that has been the cause of all of my problems for the past 10 years. im 30 now but anytime since ive been an adult that I asked anyone to help me, he has either scared them away and told them to get away from me and don't talk to me again, he threatened people such as old friends of mine.
or he manipulates them and lies to get them to think im crazy and that the real problem is that I need psychiatric help. he convinces everyone I have tried to help me, that im schitzophrenic and desperately need psychiatric medication and mental hospital stay.
even tho that's not the case and his stories got me nowhere in life and stuck since then since age 18.
im stuck the same as an adult in the house with my parents since age 18
im 30 now but ive been controlled my whole adult life, infantilized forced to live under control from them so I don't feel independent and confident like other 30 yr olds. its like im starting over. they forced me to live under crazy rules such as them chosing food for me and not allowing a lot of things even teenagers are allowed. they told people I need permission for everything.
they even would call up the local stores when ive been homebound and tell them some story and tell the stores I need permission from my parents first before I can call or order anything. so the store made my parents call each time to give permission, even at my age
I don't know whats going on but my parents tell me that gthey are still raising me, they say things about that I have to be disciplined by them, and my mother threatened to walk out and leave last week after some argument with my older sister and my father is telling me if she leaves I will have to grow up without a mother in the house
I don't think a person who is 30 is growing up, or being raised or supposed to be disciplined by their parents. either my parents don't understand age or they are in a time warp and think its 1994 still and that im underage.
or maybe they pretend its still the 1990s and that im a young kid in order to control me? they are very controlling to me even more controlling sometimes now than they were when I was 12
I don't know if that's a thing that happened before, parents infantilizing and controlling their adult children in their 20s and 30s. its strange. and I tried to stand up to them always because I have asked them to treat me as an adult for years and they never listen and they use threats
my parents impose their fanatical ideas on me and ive been forced to live like that, almost like someone from Saudi Arabia who has to have permission for every aspect from life
I have tried to be independent but my parents are 2 steps ahead of every move. they managed to block my every way out for years by telling everyone that im crazy. they told me no one will believe you because they think you are crazy
I think that's a way they have tried to get me to stay at home
I know both of my parents lived with their parents and siblings until they got married
anyways I want to get someone to come over to help me , either pick me up to take me to the hospital without my parents knowing, or some agency or social work organization to help me and get me out of the home and independence
how do I get anyone to listen to me and actually help me this time. because usually they ask to speak to my parents and when they do it is over for me. my parents convince them that im crazy and don't need any help or that the real story is that I need mental help and need to be in a psych hospital on medication and that im schitzophrenic.
then the person is convinced by my parents that im schitzophrenic. my father usually is the one that tells them the lies and stories to make it look like im schitzophrenic and mentally unstable or danger to myself and others. my mother goes along with the stories. no one stands up for me.
my mother has some mental problems, my older sister tells me she thinks she has bipolar because of the mood swings, angry rages, manic behavior but she also acts self centered with no empathy and narcissistic and dosnt show remorse 99 percent of all situations. so I don't know if she is some type of psychopath.
maybe she has another personality disorder that is a lower level of psychopath or low empathy for others
but my father is a psychopath and lies on purpose and manipulates everyone and does things on purpose. he goes to court always for many different reasons to sue different people and he wins 99 percent of the court cases. he holds grudges over small things that happened 2 decades ago and looks to get revenge for those things
even if he is wrong and the other person is not at fault, he convinces any judge.
im scared because each time I tell my story to someone and ask them for help. then they speak to my father and he adds horrible details or makes the situation seem different and convinces the person not to help me and that instead they should help him commit me to a psych hospital
I think he does the thing to get revenge at me for attempting to go away to be independent.
I don't know why. he would call up doctors and professionals and tell them false information about me.
I was in the emergency room because I stepped on something and hurt my foot by accident on a cat food can when walking. and he uses any opportunity when im in the emergency room to try to get me commited or give out fake information to doctors. he called the head nurse of the emergency room when I was there to tell them fake information about me that I have diabetes and that I was suicidal and other things.
I don't have diabetes. and I was not suicidal. I wasn't a danger to myself or other
he gives out other fake information other times to doctors , he called the emergency room other times and told them I didn't take my medication for the day and he told them the name of some medication that I was not prescribed and never took before. he made up a fake dose too but he knows many things about certain medications. he reads things on medications
he told them don't listen to me and to give me my medication , so he convinced them without them checking or calling any doctor to see if I was on that medication.
and they forced me to take the medication and I was allergic to it and had a severe allergic reaction and my jaw became paralyzed for a day from it and I broke 4 teeth in the back by the jaw from trying to open my jaw. so those teeth are lost and need to be replaces, root canals, implant
because my father thought it would be funny to lie to them to tell them to give me medication im allergic to and wasn't prescribed
I had to go get shots of Benadryl at another hospital after I left the er because I had a severe allergic reaction
he gets people to believe anything and to put my life in danger. even medical professionals who are supposed to look out for me
they don't even double check what he says to them to make sure its true. he can convince anyone
I might be able to sue these hospitals or even sue my parents for neglect and for the years of abuse and lies
but in the meantime I need to get someone to help me get out of the situation. but I need to find out how to get people to listen to me finally for once
without my father getting involved to tell them that im crazy so they don't help me
I cant sue anyone yet until I get safe away in a place that I can be on my own and recover from my medical problem. I cant deal with any lawsuit until I recover from my serious medical illness.
but I can only recover if I go out of the house to stay in another place. I cant live in any group setting or around others because my illness can be contagious if I share any bathroom or living areas. right now im confined to a separate designated room in the house with the door closed and separate bathroom nearby. and my room upstairs
also because of my illness and the tiredness, lethargic weakness I was not able to look out for myself or clean my room for the last 3 yrs. when I asked for help no one at home would listen to me. so my room got very messy over time, piles of stuff, clothes on floor,etc. because I had no one to help me. I also had a tia stroke last year from my illness so I was severely tired after for months and could not do anything.
so im afraid my father will tell people about that and blame it on "schitzophrenia" even tho its not that its that I was severely sick for years and too tired , weak to look after things or pick things up. I had mobility issues too
and he might use that as another excuse against me to get people to think im insane.
it sounds strange from the outside like why is a 30 yr old afraid of her parents. my parents are in their mid and late 60s.
but from my point of view ive been through a lot of things and have had a medical problem the last almost 5 yrs and another thing before that . and my parents are different than other parents and more manipulative and controlling than others. so I have never been able to stand up to them. even when I attempted to. but standing up to a person who has no remorse and is psychopathic dosnt help that causes more issues
from everything ive been through I didn't get to go through life and learn things and make mistakes and chose things for myself so im not a confident adult even tho in some ways im more wise and mature than people my age and I seem more like 50 some days or in certain situations
I think I will always be afraid of my parents even when they are 90. but the best thing I can do is distance myself from them and stay away from their threats. i think they are the type of people who will try to control me and make me cry until the last chance they get even when they are 95 or until they get alzheimers and forget who i am. who knows, but i think i will never have any normal relationship to my parents, they will never accept me or think im good enough. they always tell me they hate me. they know what to say to get me to be scared or upset. they even know what things to say to bring back my ptsd from all the things they did to me
i think people don't understand if i say im scared of them or cant stand up for myself. but not everyone will understand the situation.
according to my other siblings guidance counselor at her school a few years ago when she was in highschool after she met my parents she said to my sister that they are the most controlling and at the same time neglectful parents she has ever seen in her entire 20 yr career at the school. they don't help you or let you do things to improve yourself but at the same time they control you to stop you from bettering things
but to summarize this, how do i get people or someone to help me without my parents convincing the person that im crazy and schitzophrenic? because once someone talks to my parents, they usually ask to before they help me. then my parents convince the person that i need mental help instead.
Getting out would be almost totally overwhelming, like the Shawshank Redemption.
Of course I'm not expert, but if you're sensitive, even breaking an awful tie is still breaking a tie...'
and no With C, it does not frustrate me. I sent her a very nice private msg too. this ha been posted over and over with the same story and she has been given advise many many times on what she can do to get away from this horrid abuse. she says she wants out right? well why does she ignore suggestions that could save her life and give her the freedom she so desperately seeks ? she doesn't claim to try any thing except to always say her parents stop people from taking her away and claiming she is crazy. well in the real world at 30 years old all she has to do is call the police and ask to escorted from this abuse to a place she can get help. her parents have no legal right to her or to say anything at all about her to the authorities. period. that is the law. she has rights as an adult unless she has signed them over to he parents and isn't telling us that. is that expectable to you wc?
To turkeyprincess, I would suggest that you continue to not only desire a change, but put small steps that will lead to bigger steps toward your final goal. I would also suggest looking into interpersonal skills through DBT. DBT helped me interact with these difficult members in my family that remain. Also, hold onto your dream. You can get away.
And once again, I am not your enemy. I just feel like you come on strong when you assume that one can just LEAVE. Sometimes it is not always so clear cut.
Free speech is for all of us right?
it wont happen. unless someone comes over to escort me out and hold onto me and walk me to their car.
the police told me dozens of times they wont do it. and yes I did sign my legal adult rights over to my parents.so legally I have no say over anything in my life, my parents have legal control over every decision of mine and over my person. im not allowed to keep anything away from them.
my local police station hates me , all of the officers there know me. they told me they don't want to help me because im mentally disturbed and they don't want to listen to me. they don't care about the law. that's how real life works. maybe the police station near you follows the law better and has compassion.
I have two things stopping me. im not able to physically get out the door and to the sidewalk I have problems with keeping my balance. and I cannot do that alone.
and legally my parents own me according to the supreme court order by a judge.
another thing is I have a serious debilitating life threatening illness and I cant physically be on my own and look after myself. I cant cook for myself or do laundry or remember to do things.
there is nothing at this point that I can do , unless someone comes to rescue me.
but each time someone tries to rescue me my parents use their court ownership papers against me and they get rid of the person in order to keep me there
im wondering if someone can sneak me out without talking to any of my parents.
my only hope now is for someone to come and get me. I have a serious illness and my symptoms are not under control and im too sick to take myself out of the home to any doctor.
so there is nothing I can do for myself. im useless- I need others to come over to help me. but my parents don't let anyone
im not well enough to get myself out alone.my only way out is someone to come over to rescue me and help me go out. but my parents do everything to not let anyone help me. and my parents own me legally for the rest of their life.
a court appointed psychologist told a judge that im mentally incompetent and cant make decisions for myself. so the judge gave all of my adult decisions and control to my parents. so im under guardianship/conservatorship
that's because the judge said I have untreated severe unstable schitzophrenia. and that the schitzophrenia is so severe that I need others to think for me.
the problem is im now mentally incompetent after the court thing. because a year later I got sick and now because of my neurological problems im also too mentally disabled to look out for myself. I get serious mental symptoms too besides the physical symptoms.
so now that I am mentally disabled and physically disabled I do need others to help me with the basic things. remind me to brush my teeth etc, help me understand stuff.i also become psychotic depending on if my illness is worse on what days.
I do need to go away from my parents but until my neuroligcal problem is cured I need others to look out for me and make sure im okay and help me with basic things.
the thing is im not able to look out for myself, and my parents don't allow anyone to help me or look out for me, and because of my disability and illness I need someone to come and get me, I cant physically go to the sidewalk
police don't want to help me because the entire police station knows me and hates me because they say im schitzophrenic. they have been called to my house over 100 times in the last 10 yrs and each time they never wanted to help me or listen to me. the only thing they did was keeping bringing me and handcuffing me to bring me to the psych ward er.
they even threatened 2 times to tazer me. they even told to my father that he should get someone he knows to grab me and put me into a car and lock the door and drive me to the psych ward and that they would cover for him if I was physically harmed and that they would get away with it with no criminal charges if someone beat me up or something. I overheard the cops saying that when they thought I wasn't there when I hid on the steps upstairs I was listening to them from upstairs
basically the cops were saying if he harmed or killed me the police station would cover for him. but I wasn't surprised with how my police station has treated me
I called to file a complaint against the police and the police complaint operator officer asked me if im still on my antipsychotic medication. I never even mentioned to her medication. they treat me horrible
I guess when they type my name into the police computer system it shows up that im a mentally ill disturbed person whos on antipsychotic pills
I need someone who wants to help me to go to rescue me.its not up to me because I cant get to the sidewalk.
the only way I could get to the sidewalk if I hold onto someone and they physically bring me to the sidewalk. or if I can get a walker to hold onto
but im not medically stable. the first place I want to go if I get to a sidewalk is a doctor office or hospital emergency room because I need medical tests to see whats happening to me
I rented a house my parents owned and even though it was falling apart they demanded I stay there to pay the mortgage etc. because it would cost them too much to fix it. then I found out there was no mortgage! They were conveniently making money off of me.
turkeyprincess, you can get out. And don't look back. Please, don't look back !