I completely agree. There are most likely as many if not more female waco's out there

yes it does not descriminate but i think ( personally ) there are more men. one of my best friends i had for 4 years i now know was a full blown sociopath too, i was surrounded by them and i didnt even know it. i removed her from my life a few months ago, i still care about her a a person but couldnt take the lying and stealing from me constantly. best friends dont rip you off. its been kind of hard to not call her some times but i refuse to have these people in my life now i cant take the betrayal. i wont allow it anymore from anyone. i must be learning my lesson from all this.

Thankfully, she and me split in 1990s....a mutual split, with her co-borderline personality (?) cliche making me go, in her eyes, from the greatest person in world to most evil.....while she being drawn to some petty criminals and such. Around when she was age 40, a year after our split, from her out all night with a guy and me hitting an animal with my car while looking for her, I got a phone call from somebody claiming to be a private detective; ms. sociopath, around age 40 ran off with a 18 yr old, with the mom worried. They ran off to a crime ridden city, with ms sociopath disappearing off face of earth in some slum.

It's kinda creepy even thinking about our 'relationship", since she probably told her co-workers we were just room mates, with them asking me why it was my business what she did after work, with shy/dumb/embarrassed me not wanting to talk much.

And then there's the almost funny business of her claiming to her co-workers that I was stalking her afterwards, though she lived 8 miles away, me without a car cause of the accident, and very glad that years of this stuff was finally over----cause somebody else was willing to take care of her. And, on one of last times ms socipath called me she said: "you're gonna get your legs broke, pal"; I immediately called her sister up in western usa, with her sister telling me to be afraid!

many years later kinda creepy and funny.

very scary too, women sociopaths can be viscious and very violent. maybe they even get a little more exsreame then the men at times. either way a sociopath, male or female is something to be very afraid of they will sooner or later destroy your life. im glad she is out of your life now.

Thank you, bellanomore.

Female sociopaths can maybe get away with more than male sociopaths cause society can still be naive about male/female roles.

I actually had the police and one of her ex-co workers show up at our door, cause the co-worker was afraid when she disappeared from her job, as though I was some monster; ms sociopath probably quit that job cause i went looking for her one night, and actually met two of her co-workers---who probably were given a totally different description of 4-eyed me. Another group, a year later, said how I was different from how ms. sociopath described me, months after she first talked about me, and i finally met them....when she hitchiked (!) to another state.

Unable to keep a job, and fire nonsense---two more sociopath cliches that applied to ms. sociopath. It's kinda creepy to use the word "gf" re her: i only use her initial if I think of anything new about her for my diary.

"I feel like such a nerd' i joked to her sister after we finally broke up, with her sister laughing, and telling me ms sociopath even made fun of the way i looked.

Ms sociopath wasn't preety, or nice, or smart, or rich---but there really are dumb, lonely, guys like myself ready-made for such people, especially since she only had a far away sister for a relative, and eventually told me she was schizophrenic...and had cancer! (The cancer came up when she was tired of the bunch she met while hitch-hiking, in her 30s)

Creepy, stupid, and funny...and not exactly good for a hetrosexual man's ego. I started on this site in December, and finally revealed this deep dark secret.

eyes that makes sense, my psychopath is doing a smear campaign against me because i wouldnt be his girlfriend. so he is writing terrible songs about me with rumors, lies about me, to sing. it is humiliating. the songs he recorded humiliate me, are beyond hurtful

not sure how ill deal with that, but am not doing very well. im very upset, nervous, worried.

thank you, EyesOpenedN!

Yes, my whole problem, back to teen years, had to do with me staying quiet about my drunken parents---who complained about sober me! Thanks to my first computer in 2007, and revealing this stuff on the internet, I finally started figuring out my past, in my olde age. Way back in my teen years I had to shut off my brain, stop figuring things out, to deal with my parents' craziness.

Yes, after a long talk with her sister when this was over, I read all I could about sociopaths at a city library. And I later accidently came across a book about adult children of alcoholics, which stated adult children of alchoholics put up with a lot of nonsense, and become caretakers to the wrong people, cause that became normal to them while growing up with alchohlic parents.

Toxic parents, a poor schizophrenic uncle who spent almost his entire life in a state mental hospital, me an only child, maybe I have avoidant personality disorder, and then a sociopath for one of the few girlfriends in my life....I am able to laugh at all the nonsense I went through. Feels better, though, to complain on the internet about it.:)

Pen thanks to share your story. It's kinda interesting to see that there are also P. female.
Just you know.....I think it's very common to see everyone as P after an experience like that. I think the same about men.

To turkeyprincess:

EyesOpenedN's pun is probably the way to go.

One of my many self-help desktops is a Clarence Darrow (!) quote of: "if you lose the power to laugh, you lose the power to think." I've added that to my photos here.

thank you, Nutellina,

yeah, male victims and female victims wind up having the same suspicions about the opposite sex.)

you are right, there are more things written about male socio/psychos than female. Until you just posted, I thought I was the only one on this forum who is dealing with a FS. I however, am also a female. This person is still in my trying to pull her crap, but slowly, I think the mask is slipping, at least to some people. My ex says he "knows" she tells the truth because she CRIES. He doesn't understand what a sociopath is, and how they can pretend any emotion if it benefits them. Its easy for her to play the "victim" and get people to believe her.

*still in my life I meant to say :)

I think almost by definition, partners of psychopaths are really good people who care about and help others. That's why the psychopaths pick them. They know the good people will take care of them, long enough anyway.

I did think about it for sure, and what I said to aagard is that I was with my ex for 7 years, and while I do know he has issues, he is not a malicious person. He has empathy, real empathy. But he also is the kind of person who has not acknowledged his issues properly and so, it is easy for a person like that to fall victim to a predator. Sociopaths don't like to be controlled. My ex, is controlled by this woman, she has threatened him "If I see you talking to that girl again, I am leaving with the baby". And I also said before, there was a point when my ex almost believed me when I presented him with the evidence. The pain that crossed his face made him go white as a ghost. emotionally it was devastating and something he was not willing to face,he even asked me "So, what do I do now? This is going to turn me into an alcoholic" I didn't have an answer for him except that the whole thing was just f'd up and if I was him, I would get my ducks in a row so she couldn't take the baby and I would leave her. Course, coming from me that sounds like I just want them to break up. So he goes home that night and she feeds him more lies and he believes her over me. He was desperate to find something, anything that would discredit my accusations. It would mean the breaking up of his family, it would mean everything he had built up in his mind and heart about her was a lie. Hard pill to swallow dont' you think? Acceptance is something we humans have quite a time with, and will try to rationalize a situation. Sometimes, the truth doesn't make sense, its shocking, unbelievable. That makes it even MORE easy for her to convince him of her lies, he already wants to believe her so bad and she knows that. The day our son was born affected him emotionally, and it wasn't pretend. So yea, he's got some issues, but I don't think Sociopathy is what it is.