i have not done that but have you thought about the turkey baster method? that would deliver the sperm right close to your cervix. i dont know what kinda role cm plays in that part, but i would think it wouldnt need ewcm to do that if its already right on your cervix.

my theory is that if you use the turkey baster method and get dh to insert it right when your having an orgasm, your muscles will contract and suck it into your cervix. that seems like the best way if you aren't having ewcm but my guess is as good as yours.

Thank you I appreciate the response:) Do you think the sperm could live outside and in a turkey baster? I have always wondered that.

well if you think about in vitro...it has to live like that. i researched the whole air issue and my findings were that as long as you make the transfer quickly, it won't kill them, but if you take 30 mins to make the transfer, then yes, they probably won't last that long.

i never used the method because i've not ovulated in awhile, but i was going to use these instructions. hopefully this will work for you as well.
http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/homeinsem.html

also i know there are products of some sort that are meant to catch the sperm and keep it near your cervix and the i would think if you could try that while having another orgasm it might suck that up into your cervix.

the method iwas trying was dh was trying to place himself as close to my cervix as possible and then i would rotate on the bed very awkwardly where my hips were elevated against hte wall, so as to cause the semen to run all the way to the bottom near my cervix (so essentially, my hips were upside down) and then i would orgasm a few more times in order to get those contractions that would push the semen in. now, i wasn't ovulating so i didn't get pregnant, but as soon as i get clomid, and ovulate i plan on using this method again.

also, sometime you can have ewcm and its near the cervix and it might not be enough for you to detect on the tp. so i would also suggest that you keep taking fertile cm or something of that nature bc it might be creating some ewcm near the cervix. and what can it harm really? i guess you've got nothing to lose in that dept.

please understsand that this is my uneducated advice. i am just using my own logic which might not be correct. maybe just research turkey baster method and see what you can find.

That all sounds interesting and helpful! Thank you for all the information. I may need to experiment with that. I have heard that if you have an orgasm while TTC it helps, I will have to work on that too. And yes, I guess I have nothing to loose by continuing the supplements. Hopefully when YOU are on clomid you will ovulate and get pregnant! Sounds like you have the TTC thing down pact;)! Good luck to you and thanks again for your advice! I feel like I am the only one who does not produce egg white CM, I told a friend about it and she was shocked that I did not produce any around when I ovulate. So, I felt I would see what others had to say.

yeah, well i've been TTC for 10 months now and i feel like a loser bc i'm the only one i know that doesnt ovulate. i haven't had a period on my own since dec. :( so yeah.....i feel alone in this too. very much.

i almost question whether or not i can call it ttc if i'm not even ovulating....does that count? lol ugh

I am SO sorry, When do you start clomid?!?! How long has been since you have ovulated, I mean have you ovulated in the past?

well i came off bc in august of last year and i had a few afs after that, but not since dec. and after i lose 20 lbs my dr wil give me clomid. i got 12 more lbs to go to lose 25lbs

i'll probably get the clomid in a couple months.

I didnt produce a ton of the EWCM either until I started taking fish oil, and now I have noticed a HUGE difference.. also using "Preseed" helps.. its simulates EWCM and doesnt have any spermicide or chemicals that would hurt the spermies.. lol And no, you are not alone! You can also ask your doctor for a vaginal cream containing estrogen.. that will increase the mucus and make the environtment down there more welcoming.. lol So no, neither of you are alone in this!

Casey Thom, I really hope you are able to get on Clomid soon so you can start TTC, I can imagine that it is VERY frustrating for you!!! Thank you again for your suggestions!

MrsBarker, Thank YOu for your reply...I was really starting to feel alone with this since I only had one person reply and she did not seem to have that problem either! Do you mind telling me what brand of fish oil you are taking? Is it pill form or the liquid form? I have taken Fish oil in the past...it is very good for a lot of things. Not producing the egg white stuff makes it hard to track when I ovulate and when the best time to TTC is. I have used ovulation kits before as well as tracking my temps...those are pretty helpful, but it would be nice to actually have some Fertile looking CM to coincide with the postive ovulation test! It is frustrating when I have no CM and the ovulation kit is telling me it is time to TTC. I guess if nothing else works I will continue with the preseed...it is just not a very romantic lube "if you know what I mean". Its like, honey let's get it on, but first have to insert this....blah blah...you get the point...not very romantic...LOL!

No problem! i am currently taking "Nature Made 1200mg -360mg Omega-3" its purified to remove mercury I guess.. the mg's dont make sense to me, but thats what it says on the bottle. Its in pill form. They are kinda big, and i am supposed to take two a day but for some reason I usually only remember to take one.. lol. Other than that i am on just a womans formula multi-vitamin that has an energy booster in it. I dont know if its one or the other thats helping but I noticed a HUGE difference this month in my EWCM. no joke.. I was like WHAT?? where did THAT come from?? lol then "HONEY!!!!!" lol.. sorry.. And yes, I totally understand the preseed issue. its not fair that people TTC have to go through these things.. not very romantic at all. Anyway, hope the info helps! Cant hurt right?

Aw, Preseed isn't that big of a deal, for the 6 years we were married before we started TTC we used condoms + spermicide (I didn't want hormones) and you insert the spermicide the same way ;) Just do it at the beginning, then forget about it ;) Right now we're just using a little Preseed as a "regular" lube.... if it turns out I have CM problems, then I'll try inserting it with the tubes.

I'm not sure what part of fish oil helps with the CM, but just for general health, regulating cholesterol, etc., my doctor said the important thing to look for was the amount of DHA and EPA on the nutrition label -- ignore the mg on the front of the bottle. He recommended approximately 900 mg total of DHA + EPA (which means you may need to take up to 3 pills a day depending on the brand). Plus, it's recommended that you take DHA with your prenatals because it's very beneficial to baby's brain and eye development! (Most prenatals that contain DHA have less DHA than a high quality fish oil pill, though.) I take Carlson brand liquid fish oil because I can't swallow those giant horsepills most brands make ;) It's also mercury free, and doesn't give me "fish burps" like some cheap fish oil pills do (ewww....) If you do take a pill, look for one that is "enteric coated" so you don't taste fish all day!