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Anyone else watching Extant? I've watched both episodes and am hooked!
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Maybe the spores infected Molly's brain so so she saw Marcus because the aliens knew she would be more comfortable with him. I wish they had showed exactly what took place internally inside Molly when she was impregnated! I don't know how ISEA knew that she was carrying an alien child and why did they take it from her? Is it because they wanted to cover it up? Maybe they were shocked because they though the baby would look more alien? The baby's a hybrid though.
Yes, Julie definitely cares more about Ethan than Molly. I don't understand why they didn't realize that they had given Ethan's system a powerful electric shock that caused him to short circuit? I thought at one point Molly said Ethan was a lure. I wonder if Ethan will remember what happened? Probably not since he was rebooted unless his memories are stored where they can retrieve them.
I wish the show gave a clearer idea of when in the future this show is taking place (or did they and I just missed it?) because some things seem not all that advanced from where we are now while other things are far beyond our current capabilities so it'd be nice to know just how far into the future they're setting this just for the sake of getting a better understanding of the whole situation.
I would assume that since Molly didn't see the spores but believed she was seeing Marcus and the video cameras caught nothing to the naked eye (with those spores only being visible with that filter) that whatever the spores came from perhaps since they did seem to envelop her it meant they did invade her brain too - it would explain why she and the other astronaut both had changes show up on their brain scans and the hallucinations that have followed since she's returned could mean they are still in there too. But you would think any of those spores still in her would've fought to keep the baby from being removed from her - like that circular pattern popping out of her stomach every time she seemed to be in danger. Surely if it's using her as an incubator or host or something it wouldn't have allowed the baby to be removed from her so easily... or does that thinking just go against whatever their storyline dictated so they just figured it worked better to allow the baby to be removed and went with that?
I think the ISEA folks realized there was something not right with her in general and had wanted a full report on her physical and mental state upon her return because the last guy went a bit crazy and they didn't really seem to know why (or at least weren't telling). They suspected something was going on when Sam delayed telling them her results, then they started snooping on her until they learned she was pregnant. Logic would've dictated to them it was impossible she was that far along in a regular pregnancy when she was in space for over a year alone plus they suspected something happened to her up there because the video feed was partially deleted. My guess is that the company has far more knowledge of these alien spores than they are letting on; it's possible they even chose to send a woman who was known to have had fertility issues specifically to see what may occur.
I think Molly did say something about Ethan being a lure and yet they still didn't seem to think someone intentionally shut him down at the core. Ethan didn't seem to indicate any knowledge of what happened to him when he did wake up but something tells me he's going to not be quite the same kid he was before as a result of the whole matter. Perhaps they will figure out how to retrieve his memories some how, but I'm not sure there's much his memory will help them figure out at this point other than to prove he was taken and left in that field to lure Molly rather than that he ran away and "got hurt" and shut himself down.
As for the time period I was wondering that too. I read an article that said this:" We've always kind of thought of it as 20 to 30 years out — in the classic term of the genre, the not-too-distant future. But we didn't put a specific date in because we wanted to give ourselves a bit of creative freedom and conjure up new things, but also look at where technology might evolve to at that point. But not tie ourselves up, so that people can hopefully just focus on the characters and the story, and not try to pull it apart."
http://www.thewrap.com/why-extant-creators-decided-to-mute-the-future-in-the-halle-berry-sci-fi-series/
I don't understand why the spores didn't prevent ISEA from taking the baby. Maybe Molly being under anesthesia made the spores weaker? Any other time that they circles showed up Molly was awake.
I agree that Ethan's memory wouldn't have much about what happened to him. I think he will be different than he was before. We have no idea what he was like when John first brought him into their home. He does learn by experience after all.
I think there was the one time the circles popped up when Molly wasn't fully awake - when she passed out in the kitchen and Ethan found her coming to, the circles were popped up before she did... if I'm recalling correctly.
I wonder if the power down on Ethan that happened will require them to fully reboot him and thus wipe out everything he's learned already. I mean, he already responded to Molly as his mother so he didn't lose everything - yet - but I'm sure he's not going to be the same as he was. He was acting weird though before so maybe it won't be a complete change so much as just more emphasis on that weirdness he was exhibiting (like when he caught the bird and kept it to "play with later").
You're right the circles did pop up on Molly's stomach when she passed out in the kitchen, I had forgot about that. I really enjoy discussing Extant with you. I watched last night's episode. I will look forward to discussing it with you once you watch it. :)
I actually watched last week's episode over the weekend but forgot to post about it...
Okay, so clearly the baby/alien spores are very powerful if they could convince that one scientist to kill the other one and knock out all those cameras and such. But it again makes me wonder how the alien spores/baby didn't give the same sort of power to Molly to protect itself from being taken out of her.
Is Kryger now dead or was he just knocked out by Sparks' lackey? (Side note: Could that guy look any more like Kurt Russell if he tried?! - the one playing the lackey not Kryger, that is...)
Now that Molly and John know that Sparks' daughter sent a transmission from another space station before everyone on it died from being "infected" by the alien spores and yet they still sent her up there, what will they do with that information? It certainly does make it look like they knew full well what would happen to Molly up there and they wanted that to occur. But why?
Oh and that guy Julie met, Odin I think it was, is he a spy for ISEA or anyone else involved with them or what? That's the distinct vibe I got. He showed up there not just to have her help fix his elbow joint for his prosthetic but also to scope the place (and Ethan) out, surely...
I'm not sure what's going on with Kryger. Maybe he's just knocked out? Yes that guy did look like Kurt Russell.
It's crazy that Sparks would send his daughter up knowing what would happen. So the spores made all the other people kill each other so Sparks' daughter could get pregnant? Did one of the other crew members kill her?
It's been a while since I watched the show so I'm a little foggy on that point. You're right it's good to post right after the show airs so it's fresh in my mind.
The only reason that I think they wanted Molly up there is that they wanted to see if you could get pregnant, come back, and they could take the baby out to study. The artificial womb they have works fine for the baby.
I agree that Odin was a spy for ISEA or someone else because he was scoping out the place and was really interested in Ethan. I think they sent Odin there because they were worried Ethan had told what happened in the woods. They want to make sure his memories don't return.
Sparks was told they should pull their upcoming missions and he said something about the fact that they're planned so far ahead that he can't just pull the plug, or something like that. But that I think had nothing to do with Molly's mission but was about future missions.
Ethan must be remembering something; the dream he had mentioned seemed to indicate he did. It's just that everyone was so surprised he could even dream at all that they overlooked the details he shared. I was surprised Molly didn't pay closer attention to what he did tell her about it because it sure sounded like he was talking about being on that boat...
I never thought Kern would help Kryger and Molly! It's good that he's questioning Spark's plans! He's a very valuable asset for them because he knows ISEA security systems!
So much is happening with the baby or as they like to call it the offspring. The spores/baby are so much more powerful then they know! I don't know how it does everything especially the part where it escaped! Those circles don't just mean pregnancy but also that someone is under their control.
How is the substance that they mined keeping Yasumoto alive?! He has such a high stake in everything! They went up to mine the substance and came across the spores!
I know there's more but I'm too tired to write anymore as it's past 1am here. I look forward to discussing these two episodes with you!
I'm writing this while trying not to read your post so I don't spoil anything for myself just yet... but I thought I'd mention my dvr issue since it may take me some time to find the two episodes online (if at all). If I can't find them I may need to rely on you to fill me in on what I missed!
I didn't bother to look up those other two episodes... my Dad mentioned today that while he was dog-sitting at my brother's house he was able to watch the two episodes on demand (because my brother's got that feature) and he told me most of what happened (at least I think it was most of what happened since he basically told me the same stuff you mentioned in your post about them which I just read since I decided not to look for the episodes) so I think I'm fairly caught up. So long as the dvr doesn't go and delete the recording on me inexplicably once again, then I will be able to watch this week's two hours and be back on track.