Rheumatoid Arthritis Support Group
Rheumatoid arthritis is a chronic, inflammatory, multisystem, autoimmune disorder. It is a disabling and painful condition which can lead to substantial loss of mobility due to pain and joint destruction. The disease is also systemic in that it often also affects many extra-articular tissues throughout the body including the skin, blood vessels, heart, lungs, and...
so i was googling. and i am going to be choosing between these two biologics on wednesday. and an old thread here came up and mentioned some stuff. stuff i'm not thrilled with.
enbrel is produced... in CHINESE HAMSTER OVARY CELLS? like, so it's actually created in chinese hamster ovary cells? i'm having a very hard time with this right now.
i think of pharmaceuticals like men in white lab coats playing with chemicals. i didn't realize that biologics were, well.... so biological. that sounds pretty stupid now that i say/type it.
apparently humira is a monoclonal antibody - it's made from all human proteins, no animal.
this is an issue. i think. i mean, how is this done? does anyone know?
i'm about 85/90% vegetarian and work hard to be aware of what animal products are in m home. i don't bring any raw meat in my home (except for my cats. they are obligate carnivores and require meaty bits). i don't cook meat (again, see: my cats).
i was pretty much thinking i'd go with enbrel since it has a longer track record, but now i'm not sure. does anyone know how this whole 'chinese hamster ovary' thing works?
enbrel is produced... in CHINESE HAMSTER OVARY CELLS? like, so it's actually created in chinese hamster ovary cells? i'm having a very hard time with this right now.
i think of pharmaceuticals like men in white lab coats playing with chemicals. i didn't realize that biologics were, well.... so biological. that sounds pretty stupid now that i say/type it.
apparently humira is a monoclonal antibody - it's made from all human proteins, no animal.
this is an issue. i think. i mean, how is this done? does anyone know?
i'm about 85/90% vegetarian and work hard to be aware of what animal products are in m home. i don't bring any raw meat in my home (except for my cats. they are obligate carnivores and require meaty bits). i don't cook meat (again, see: my cats).
i was pretty much thinking i'd go with enbrel since it has a longer track record, but now i'm not sure. does anyone know how this whole 'chinese hamster ovary' thing works?
Humira and Enbrel both worked for me until they each stopped after about 2 years. Orencia; 3 years and counting.
Made from human protein i think is a plus. seems it would be more easily tolerated. My GUESS is they take some human dna and work with it in the lab.