Pulmonary Embolism Support Group
By far the most common form of pulmonary embolism is a thromboembolism, which occurs when a blood clot, generally a venous thrombus, becomes dislodged from its site of formation and embolizes to the arterial blood supply of one of the lungs. Symptoms may include difficulty breathing, pain during breathing, and more rarely circulatory instability and death.
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Hi everyone,
I am 8 months post bilateral PE's and seemed to be getting better until this month. Simple yard work and anything that requires some exertion get's me pretty winded. Spreading the fertilizer tonight wiped me out....and that is just walking behind a spreader. Not as bad as it was before the PE's were diagnosed but definitely seem to be going in the wrong direction. I have also developed a cough.
Seems I have been to all the docs....
Cardiologist and Echo show that my heart walls are not enlarged and is not showing any back pressure, so PH seems unlikely.
VQ test last month showed clots are still in my lungs. Pulmonologist says that they do not seem to be new but residual and will be with me forever.
Also diagnosed with Factor V Leiden - which they say was the source of my clots. Doc also recommends Coumadin for life because of the severity of the clots.
Would appreciate any thoughts if I could be developing more clots? Also wondering about those filters I have heard about.
Thanks,
Bill
I am 8 months post bilateral PE's and seemed to be getting better until this month. Simple yard work and anything that requires some exertion get's me pretty winded. Spreading the fertilizer tonight wiped me out....and that is just walking behind a spreader. Not as bad as it was before the PE's were diagnosed but definitely seem to be going in the wrong direction. I have also developed a cough.
Seems I have been to all the docs....
Cardiologist and Echo show that my heart walls are not enlarged and is not showing any back pressure, so PH seems unlikely.
VQ test last month showed clots are still in my lungs. Pulmonologist says that they do not seem to be new but residual and will be with me forever.
Also diagnosed with Factor V Leiden - which they say was the source of my clots. Doc also recommends Coumadin for life because of the severity of the clots.
Would appreciate any thoughts if I could be developing more clots? Also wondering about those filters I have heard about.
Thanks,
Bill
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Try to listen to your body. If it's telling you it's too much, then just pause for a moment, take a break for a day or two, and slowly build yourself back up.
For a while, I got hit with the exhaustion when I was trying something new: going for a long walk in cold temperatures, being outside in humidity, just had a long day. The bouts got less and less over time, but the last one I had was on Thanksgiving Day after a long walk with the family after dinner. My clots were at the end of January, so it was about 11 months later.
Take it easy for a day or so and see if you start to bounce back. If your symptoms aren't continuous, I would think it is more just part of the healing process than anything else.
That said, if you're off warfarin and really concerned that your clots are coming back, go get yourself checked out ASAP. Better safe than sorry.
If you're on warfarin and getting these symptoms, I would really chalk it up to the recovery process. I know eight months seems like a long time, but you still have plenty more time for recovery. I'm more than three years out at this point and I've still seen improvement over the last couple of years.
Can't speak to the filters. I don't have one and don't really want one.
I have no issues with my filter and like ShilosMommy, forget I even have it. It's not a guarantee of anything really, but it's one added safety net for some folks. I actually was happy to have my filter when I was off warfarn for a while. So in that sense, it was a nice to have. Now I don't think it matters much since I'm on warfarin for life.
I have the same shortness of breath you and others describe. I notice it most when talking, on exertion, when it is extra hot, cold or humid and sometimes for no reason I can identify.
From my initial CT scan, one of my docs estimated 40% loss of lung on the right and 30% on the left. Although coronary vessels were found to be without disease, my diminished lung capacity resulted in not enough oxygen during increased demand and irritable heart tissue does not conduct normally.
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I fight every day to increase my stamina. It seems to work some days better than others but at this point I don't see any better choices. I try to be thankful for the struggle rather than resting in peace. I wish you the best in your recovery.
Thanks.