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Trust-the chicken or the egg?
mujicaptsd
Hi, all. Hope you're safe from the storm. I'm on the east coast, work's canceled, so while riding it out I'm indulging in some reflection. I've talked about this in therapy, but not in an open support group of peers like I have here.
PTSD survivors naturally have trust issues. And when people fail us, as people will do just by virtue of being fallible human beings, we are very sensitive to it. Our lives depended on who we could trust in moments of life and death trauma, after all.
The thing is, as I've lived decades beyond the years of trauma I survived, I still wonder. When someone lets me down in a relationship, friendship, or as family, is it them or is it me? Are these all self-fulfilling prophecies I orchestrate, albeit subconsciously, or do people fail one another on their own at the rate I've experienced?
Of course, in the end you might say that it's just like the question of the chicken or the egg, it's not information that is all that useful. You just have to deal with what comes, the best you can. True. But what has your experience with trust been like? Has your trust been rewarded?
PTSD survivors naturally have trust issues. And when people fail us, as people will do just by virtue of being fallible human beings, we are very sensitive to it. Our lives depended on who we could trust in moments of life and death trauma, after all.
The thing is, as I've lived decades beyond the years of trauma I survived, I still wonder. When someone lets me down in a relationship, friendship, or as family, is it them or is it me? Are these all self-fulfilling prophecies I orchestrate, albeit subconsciously, or do people fail one another on their own at the rate I've experienced?
Of course, in the end you might say that it's just like the question of the chicken or the egg, it's not information that is all that useful. You just have to deal with what comes, the best you can. True. But what has your experience with trust been like? Has your trust been rewarded?
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When it comes to trust, details are everything in Arfie's Chicken Coop.
For instance, how is that we even have to have conversations about what is a "legitimate rape" and what isn't? I mean, I try to imagine explaining that concept to a child and I'm left saying "OMG! How did we as a society get to this place?" in my mind.
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I trust no one completely, and yet I trust everyone to some small degree. The degrees vary based on a case by case basis. Everyone starts out with a blank sheet, and then I list the pro's and the con's as the relationship moves along. Each entry in this mental ledger moves the "value" of the person up or down, and the relationship becomes closer or further away. Bosses tend to get short-changed, while my DS friends tend to get more of the benefit of the doubt. And so it goes.
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I have shattered relationships in my past and present, and can see we both bore/bare responsibility for the outcomes.
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