yep.

You're making sense. I experienced this repetitive thing when the doctor tried me on a tricyclic. You on one of these? I guess I'm always checkng people's meds because they have had such terrible, someties deadly effects on m, so I want to check this first.

No, Milla, I am not on any medication. I use holistic approaches to tackle one symptom at a time.

Thanks, Arfie. My only personal exerience with the loopig repetitve was with the tricyclcs. Does Valerian root help? When a benzo just makes things worse, I reach for my always-handly Valerian root.

Oh, I just remembered when I was in my teens and my mind seemed to be ruling me not me it. Couldn't shut up the thoughts. At that time I remember using a clock, very slow, one tick per every 5 seconds or so to slow down my mnd. Later I used a vision of a metranome, very slow again. If I went slow enough my brain slowed down and I could catch the thoughts going by and deal with them. Some were just silly, and I could eliminate them once I looked at them. Others took time, but at least I could see them slowly. Don't know if this helps.

Chasing my tail has always been a sport I excelled in. The thing about therapy is that under my therapist's guidance I caught it a couple of times. You know, like the dog that chases a car and then one day catches up to one? That "now what" moment was good for me. I haven't quit entirely because PTSD wound me up pretty good, but I chase my tail (and chase cars) a little less. If I do it now I do it knowing it is just a habit of mind, not the pursuit that will bring about the answer to the meaning of life or anything.

Over the decades of dealing with my thought loops, I have come to associate them with aches in my head which seem to move like gas bubbles through my intestines. I call them pressure centers. I often wonder if they are neural pathways that are stuck in the "on" position. Be that as it may...

So far I have been using translations, meditations and mantras to disrupt the loops. This time around I find myself using a wordless imagery of massaging the pressure center. Still new at it, but it seems to be working

The good EMDR therapist I had called them rocks, or capsualzations. The EMDR, then ART therapy helped me remove the rocks and/or bust open the capsualizations on a very particular subject. It worked.

Total sense and with your great sense of humor you have..lol..

"I can sometimes see the NASCAR fans roaring on the sidelines and the other side of TV screens."

lol yer so funny.

I've quite recently began to realize the expanse of what seems (and I know this is another judgemental tactic adding to) to be a broken mind pattern, that loops endlessly on the most minor of physical activities, theres no deep thought into possibly questions how, why, etc. I can sometimes hear myself ask that type of question but its ignored and the repetitive thought continues. My memory is also a hit or miss. I have extreme difficulty recalling memories I believe is due to lack of use of my brain, I watched TV nonstop as a child. I am really starting to think these loops have something to do with all the stress and anxiety I put myself through as a child over simple things, always "I" , "ME", I dont know why my brain and mind believed coping this way was efficient. I've conversated with people who have very productive and efficient minds. I can see what I lack. I know I'm not actually broken but this is not where I want to be anymore. As well as my dulled sense, I live in a dream where my physical senses are secondary to what's going on in my mind except it seems my focus or awareness is non existant, I am trying focusing on my senses with little luck

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