I'm at the stage where if I can sleep...I sleep. I know all about sleep hygiene and all of that, but...anyway.

It's HARD.

Go with what works for you.

Total support

Yes. I’m back on meds because without them I can’t regulate sleep and eventually get deprived again which then turns all my ptsd symptoms into high drive. Isn’t this fun~

Totally agree with Patti. I do what I can dotriplenhugs muji.

Really hope you get some good extra rest soon~

That sucks Muji. I have endured some long bouts of insomnia but mostly my issue is never getting into deep sleep so I am up 3-5 times a night. It is a good thing you are sleepy now! I sure hope you get a ton of rest now.

I will always need to medicate to regulate my sleep. I can't shutdown if anything is on my mind. The tip I was given to try reading was a disaster, I read 20 books in a month lol. I have to combine the sleep hygiene with the meds too.
Last year was a very bad year because of all that went on so I wasn't here very often, sleeping was a when or if in my living.

I do inane tv shows like you have mentioned before because absolute quiet is it's own trigger for me.

I hope you get your sleep.

I'm in the same club. No idea why I will run into those nights. Many times, after 2 or 3 hours, I come completely awake with no way to return to sleep. And yes, I will struggle to stay awake until a reasonable time to go to sleep. Comforting hugs.

Sometimes good old fashion cracker in milk to release your tryptophan can help shut the brain down. Magnesium and calcium help calm the mind at night. Sometimes the heart mind connection gets overloaded, my acupuncturist used to tell me this and the brain can't shut down at night
From my experience with patients, not falling asleep is the brain thinking too much, stress. I know you said you haven't felt stress, but sometimes the subconscious is overworking?
Yoga seems to settle that and has a long lasting effect...your probably laughing at that suggestion as most men do :)
waking up early (2, 3 or 4pm) is often low serotonin

Thanks, everybody. Time to destress, then, eh? It was a loooooooonnnnnnnggggg day today at the ole community college with the end of year meetings to sit through and being underslept as I've been for a couple of weeks. But I made it. Looking forward to trying to sleep in tomorrow, the first day this week I don't have either classes to teach or meetings to sit through. Hopefully, it'll be all about zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

Ahhhhh, relief. I did sleep in today. Thanks for the support to tide me over until then. Hope to rest up over the weekend, too. May everyone here have restful sleep--this insomnia episode reminded me just how blessed it is.

I hate insomnia and I often have it too Muji

I'm glad that you were able to have a sleep in..... I'm really careful about my caffeine intake because of this.....xo

I know. My caffeine intake's been down to zero since the December surgery. Even from less direct sources than coffee and tea--like chocolate, that sort of thing. Caffeine is around in more sources than I'd realized.

Yay, glad you slept muji and what a relief classes are done!

Here's to lots of naps coming your way.....

Yeah, it's a relief for sure. I had trouble getting to sleep on time at bedtime last night. But once I did I stayed asleep this time through the night, something I'd had trouble doing during this period of insomnia these last 10 days or so. Now all I have to do is put on my graduation robes and sit through commencement and stay awake for it....

It would take a lot to explain why this is a nightmare and not just a series of bad dreams, but this week I've had repeat nightmares of being in a grocery store. I buy my stuff but each time I get to the exit, something happens with the cart. It tips over, slams into something or something else. I have to pick up my bruised fruit and start again.

By the end, I'm scraping mashed groceries up off of the floor and still not making it out the door.

Fun, fun, fun in the sun (sarc)

The irony...is that as a kid, sleep was my safe place. And as an adult, it's reversed.

That repeat nightmare has frustration built into it all over the place, doesn't it, patti? Does it make you wake up tired?