Physical & Emotional Abuse Support Group
Abuse is a general term for the treatment of someone that causes some kind of harm (to the abused person, to the abusers themselves, or to someone else) that is unlawful or wrongful. No one deserves abuse, period. Abuse can be emotional, physical, or sexual.
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This information may have been posted before and I missed it (during one of my long breaks from the site). I got this from the website outofthefog.net in the toolbox section. While many aspects of the information is relevant to many of us, (and I'm sure I will be sharing more throughout the coming days:0) I find invalidation to be a particularly frustrating and hurtful part of conversations with my H. So here is the info:
Invalidation--the creation or promotion of an environment which encourages an individual to believe that their thoughts, beliefs, values or physical presence are inferior, flawed, problematic or worthless.
The distorted mirror: Abusive people will often use invalidation as a means of diverting attention away from flaws in their own logic, character, and behavior while pressuring others to yield control. It works by deflecting attention away from the subject or problem at hand, and focusing on a false surrogate topic which can be summed up as "look what's wrong with you". The victim is thus maneuvered into a position where in order to deal with the problem they want to discuss, they must first demonstrate to the perpetrator that they have fixed all the flaws in themselves. This means the perpetrator successfully avoids addressing the original problem or issue.
What it looks like:
*Statement: "You hit me!"
*Invalidating statement: "There you go again! Why are you always angry with me?"
(I'm not going to type all of the statements out, but there are more)
How it feels: Invalidation often deals an unexpected blow to your self-esteem. You may approach a conversation looking to improve a relationship or work on a problem only to find yourself on the defensive, feeling lost, confused, scared, and with no resolution in sight. You may wonder "What's wrong with me that I can't get through to him/her?" or "What's wrong with him/her that they just won't listen?" Nons often reach for their instinctive fight or flight responses when confronted with an invalidating comment. That can lead them to respond in an inappropriately aggressive manner, with anger and exasperation, or they may feel a defeatist urge and just give in. Either way, the perpetrator gets what they want and the diversion is established.
Coping with invalidation: Invalidation is an aggressive form of emotional abuse. If someone uses invalidation on you, it is important to recognize it and to understand that they are not looking for a compromise or a way to meet you in the middle at that particular moment. They are using a power play to win--to suppress your needs in favor of their own. Recognizing invalidation should be a cue to calmly reject the falsehood in the accusation and quickly exit the conversation. When someone uses invalidation, you are temporarily released froam any moral obligation to compromise or try to further resolve the problem. Instead, it is a time to focus your energy on protecting yourself, your children, your assets and your dignity. Compromises and resolution can be attempted later, if and when the other person decides to adopt a different approach and communicate with you in a respectful, validating manner.
What NOT to do:
*Don't accept the premise of an invalidating statement or comment.
*Don't take the bait and be drawn into a fight or a circular conversation.Stay focused on the issues that really matter.
*Don't argue or debate or repeatedly go over the issues with someone who is invalidating you. You may end up arguing for a very long time and get nowhere, and the harder you try, the more opportunities they have to further invalidate you. State the truth once. Then save discussion for a time when they are ready to listen to you with respect.
*Don't stay in the same room with a person who speaks to you with anything less than the respect you are worth. Don't wait for them to understand your point of view. Take a break. Remove yourself politely and tell them you'll be back when you feel safe.
What TO do:
*If you find yourself feeling shame over the statements another person is making about you then it is possible that the problem is them--not with you. Healthy people don't go around shaming others.
*Confront invalidation at once, calmly with truth and without emotion.
*End the conversation as soon as an invalidating statement is given.
*Allow the other person their feelings and thoughts--without taking responsibility for making them see the truth.
*Focus on seeing yourself in a validating way. Remind yourself of your qualities and strengths. Strive for excellence--not perfection.
*Surround yourself with healthy people who will tell you with kindness what they see of your strengths and weaknesses.
Invalidation--the creation or promotion of an environment which encourages an individual to believe that their thoughts, beliefs, values or physical presence are inferior, flawed, problematic or worthless.
The distorted mirror: Abusive people will often use invalidation as a means of diverting attention away from flaws in their own logic, character, and behavior while pressuring others to yield control. It works by deflecting attention away from the subject or problem at hand, and focusing on a false surrogate topic which can be summed up as "look what's wrong with you". The victim is thus maneuvered into a position where in order to deal with the problem they want to discuss, they must first demonstrate to the perpetrator that they have fixed all the flaws in themselves. This means the perpetrator successfully avoids addressing the original problem or issue.
What it looks like:
*Statement: "You hit me!"
*Invalidating statement: "There you go again! Why are you always angry with me?"
(I'm not going to type all of the statements out, but there are more)
How it feels: Invalidation often deals an unexpected blow to your self-esteem. You may approach a conversation looking to improve a relationship or work on a problem only to find yourself on the defensive, feeling lost, confused, scared, and with no resolution in sight. You may wonder "What's wrong with me that I can't get through to him/her?" or "What's wrong with him/her that they just won't listen?" Nons often reach for their instinctive fight or flight responses when confronted with an invalidating comment. That can lead them to respond in an inappropriately aggressive manner, with anger and exasperation, or they may feel a defeatist urge and just give in. Either way, the perpetrator gets what they want and the diversion is established.
Coping with invalidation: Invalidation is an aggressive form of emotional abuse. If someone uses invalidation on you, it is important to recognize it and to understand that they are not looking for a compromise or a way to meet you in the middle at that particular moment. They are using a power play to win--to suppress your needs in favor of their own. Recognizing invalidation should be a cue to calmly reject the falsehood in the accusation and quickly exit the conversation. When someone uses invalidation, you are temporarily released froam any moral obligation to compromise or try to further resolve the problem. Instead, it is a time to focus your energy on protecting yourself, your children, your assets and your dignity. Compromises and resolution can be attempted later, if and when the other person decides to adopt a different approach and communicate with you in a respectful, validating manner.
What NOT to do:
*Don't accept the premise of an invalidating statement or comment.
*Don't take the bait and be drawn into a fight or a circular conversation.Stay focused on the issues that really matter.
*Don't argue or debate or repeatedly go over the issues with someone who is invalidating you. You may end up arguing for a very long time and get nowhere, and the harder you try, the more opportunities they have to further invalidate you. State the truth once. Then save discussion for a time when they are ready to listen to you with respect.
*Don't stay in the same room with a person who speaks to you with anything less than the respect you are worth. Don't wait for them to understand your point of view. Take a break. Remove yourself politely and tell them you'll be back when you feel safe.
What TO do:
*If you find yourself feeling shame over the statements another person is making about you then it is possible that the problem is them--not with you. Healthy people don't go around shaming others.
*Confront invalidation at once, calmly with truth and without emotion.
*End the conversation as soon as an invalidating statement is given.
*Allow the other person their feelings and thoughts--without taking responsibility for making them see the truth.
*Focus on seeing yourself in a validating way. Remind yourself of your qualities and strengths. Strive for excellence--not perfection.
*Surround yourself with healthy people who will tell you with kindness what they see of your strengths and weaknesses.
It's such a common tactic and yes, in the past, it used to lead to ridiculously long, circular arguments as I would try again and again to defend myself, to make him see, to have him understand. Never again.
Amen to Livn. Never again.
I still have trouble keeping in mind that this is one of the most vile forms of abuse out there. This is graduate-level crazymaking.
Sticks and stones may break your bones, but this stuff will make you hate yourself.
Thank you for posting this.
Circular, debating, repeating, and inappropriately long arguments was MY LIFE!
I actually know no other way to try and get my point across. My family or friend has to literally say, I Get It! or Relax, I Understand!
The word RELAX is a huge trigger...My H would make me crazy. Round and round, sideways and backwards, then tell me: Fuckin Relax, what are you getting so excited about. Or if I started to cry from pure frustration he would literally stare at me and cross his eyes. Such a tormenting asshole!
Sorry, this actual flared up quite a bit of hostility.
You're not the only one Godis.
Trying - your response mirrors my life.
Godismyhonor: This is from "Why Does He Do That?" by Lundy Bancroft
"The abusers problem is not that he responds inappropriately to conflict. His abusiveness is operating prior to the conflict: it usually creates the conflict, and it determines the shape the conflict takes. Therapists often try to work with an abuser by analyzing his responses to disagreements and trying to get him to handle conflict differently. But such an approach misses the point: His abusiveness was what caused the tension to begin with."