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1. Obama wins, Middle East rises, goes on big power trip, uses first strike, whole world blows up. Everyone goes to heaven. 144,000's nose out of joint, but they get over it.
Payoff: 1000 virgins to Muslim men, no more abuse of Muslim women. Peace for all minus 144,000
2. Obama wins, Middle East rises, goes on big power trip, uses first strike, world doesn't completely blow up, but political, economic world comes to end. Survivors suffer big time.
Payoff: survivors inherit the earth, eventually meek and peace on earth. 144,000 safe and smug in heaven. Can't tell the difference after a while.
3. McCain wins. History making strategic campaign results in North Korea disappearing off map somehow, Finland's arms race thwarted. 1000 years war reverts to sticks and stones when oil runs out. Not much action in heaven. People harvest bugs for food. No education. Abyssmal poverty in U.S. means Canada becomes new world power. Apologizes for something. Ouch I bet that hurts. lol.
As for religion and opinions of the antichrist.....
If bush wasn't the biggest example of an antichrist I had ever seen I'll kiss your ass...
That being said.... the bible, as wonderful a source of spiritual guidance as it is, certainly talks poorly of fortune telling.... people take revelations and make it a fortune telling prophecy, and in my honest opinion that is probably the worst blasphemy one could do to it.
I am far from christian, but I don't discount their beliefs, no more than i discount muslim, jewish, buddist, or whatever else. So on topic here, No, I don't believe obama is anymore the antichrist that mccain is. However, politicians as a whole are certianly crooks and robbers that I have less use for that a toothbrush without bristles.
The saviour of mankind and this world as a whole can only be the evolution of human consciousness.
Every problem that mankind has, or ever had, can be traced back to the unconscious nature of the human mind. And they can only be solved by the waking up of people from the dream they now almost all live under.
Why is their this idea that Jesus came here the first time to do it for us all. Jesus did not come here to do it for us, he came here and tried to show us how to do it for ourselves. Do you not see that in the bible? The same with Buddha, and every other awakened being. And Ghandi (Happy Birthday MG on 10/02, you wild man, you!) and John Lennon, Martin luther King Jr., I could go on and on. All these people tried to tell us how to do it ourselves, to some degree or another. And all this talk about how God is dead and he doesn't help us anymore and we are just all cosmic orphans. We have the potential to do it ourselves. What worth are humans if some supernatural force does it for them? If there is no God at all, then the truths and ideas I have seen are still enough for us to do it. And these ideas have been around for thousands of years, some of them. But the ego is scared of death and will not submit. But the ego is an insubstantial being who is not suppose to run things. Your true self is suppose to be in control.
So you can't stop hating, can you? Is that true? You can't stop thinking that happiness is lying out there somewhere waiting for you to find it? Is that true? You can't help but cause others suffering, is that it?
You just can't help seeing others are below you, is that maybe it? When someone pisses you off, you can't just smile and let it go and walk away knowing that you really haven't lost a thing? Can't turn off your TV or stop wasting resources? Is that just too hard for you? You can't see that others are not evil, but just mistakenly trying to be happy through mistaken means? And you can't stop seeing things as one dimensional instead of the infinite dimensional things that they really are? And you can't possible squeeze any more love out of that human heart of yours? All these things are just how it is and it is impossible to change, is that it. Okay, so then maybe I am full of shit. But I have tasted something different. I know we can change. I know the potential of every single human being. It is far greater then they even imagine. Most are just sleeping in a burning house, living in a dark cave and only fascinated with the shadows on the back wall of the cave.
Disclaimer: The "you" listed in the above paragraph was not meant to be directed toward any one person in this thread or period. It is the royal you meaning anybody and everybody. But only if you feel the question applies to you.
Although I doubt it would make much difference, as this seems like standard right-wing hysterical propaganda anyway, and it's not likely that those who propagate it will listen to reason.