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http://www.nationalmssociety.org/news/news-detail/index.aspx?nid=3685
This study of people NOT taking DMDs, seems to indicate that time to progressive stage is sooner for males and people who had spasticity and muscle stiffness as early symptoms. I was disappointed as they did not expound on stiffness. I had numbness to my waist fo rmy first episode. I don't know if they were still too. That was 19 yrs ago. There was not as huge a discrepency in time to progression as I was expecting. I think it was form 17 yras to 19 yrs. I thought it also interesting that none of the patients were on DMDs. Makes you wonder what the drugs are useful for.
Does anyone have any more information on this study or similar research. As I approach the 20 yr mark I am very interested to knos. Thanks.
This study of people NOT taking DMDs, seems to indicate that time to progressive stage is sooner for males and people who had spasticity and muscle stiffness as early symptoms. I was disappointed as they did not expound on stiffness. I had numbness to my waist fo rmy first episode. I don't know if they were still too. That was 19 yrs ago. There was not as huge a discrepency in time to progression as I was expecting. I think it was form 17 yras to 19 yrs. I thought it also interesting that none of the patients were on DMDs. Makes you wonder what the drugs are useful for.
Does anyone have any more information on this study or similar research. As I approach the 20 yr mark I am very interested to knos. Thanks.
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