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My neurologist just officially ruled out MS. I was diagnosed and treated for MS 10 years ago and have been under the care of an MS specialist. She left the area, I had to go to a neuro who specializes in sleep disorders.
I posted about the ordeal here...
http://www.dailystrength.org/c/Multiple_Sclerosis_MS/forum/11203190-i-dont-have-ms
He said my spinal was negative and if I had MS it would be 100% positive. There is no way I could have MS for 10 years and it be negative. IMPOSSIBLE.
HE IS WRONG!!
"A negative" spinal tap does not rule out MS or other diseases. An abnormal autoimmune response in CSF is found in a number of other diseases, so the test is not specific for MS. Conversely, some 5%-10% of people with MS never show these CSF abnormalities. Therefore, analysis of the CSF by itself cannot confirm or rule out a diagnosis of MS. It must be part of the total picture that takes into account other diagnostic procedures such as evoked potentials and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)."
He is so proud now that he has disproved 6 of my old neuros patients diagnosis. In the last 4 months he has had 6 patient with MS that he proved did not have them. And he is proud of this as she is not really an MS specialist according to him. (She is nationally renowned, but hey, what does the rest of the nation know, he is God after all.)
He said based upon this, he will no longer prescribe me any medication.
So I am now left to deal with excruciating muscle spasms with no relief.
I am losing my Copaxone.
I have muscle spasms, optic neuritis, numbness, tingling, weakness, legs that feel like lead, fatigue, burning sensations, cobweb feeling and many other issues.
I am scared. What happens now when i relapse. I can get no help. I am so scared.
I am going to try to drive to Pittsburgh for help. Anyone know a good MS dr there?
My old MS dr gave me the diagnosis despite the negative spinal tap because of the lesions, symptoms, relapses, evoked response tests. He did not even look at my MRI, EVER.
All he did was read the report and even though every radiologist said the lesions were consistent with MS, that means nothing, half the people in the world have lesions. The increase in lesions over the last 10 years... mean nothing, the evoked response test, nothing, they can be wrong. I had one showing significant decline... when my ON was really bad. One done recently when I was stable and it was normal.
He said no way can I get 2 different results, so one must be wrong and he is choosing the one saying I have ON.
My eye doctor diagnosed me with ON.
I don't know what to do.
I will see another neuro, a specialist this time. But this dr won't even check me for anything else. He is done with me, sending me on my way. If not MS, then would he not want to find out what it is?
I am so angry and scared. What will I do without medications. What do I do when the pain hits? The last time, I wanted to die. I don't want to reach that point.
I posted about the ordeal here...
http://www.dailystrength.org/c/Multiple_Sclerosis_MS/forum/11203190-i-dont-have-ms
He said my spinal was negative and if I had MS it would be 100% positive. There is no way I could have MS for 10 years and it be negative. IMPOSSIBLE.
HE IS WRONG!!
"A negative" spinal tap does not rule out MS or other diseases. An abnormal autoimmune response in CSF is found in a number of other diseases, so the test is not specific for MS. Conversely, some 5%-10% of people with MS never show these CSF abnormalities. Therefore, analysis of the CSF by itself cannot confirm or rule out a diagnosis of MS. It must be part of the total picture that takes into account other diagnostic procedures such as evoked potentials and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)."
He is so proud now that he has disproved 6 of my old neuros patients diagnosis. In the last 4 months he has had 6 patient with MS that he proved did not have them. And he is proud of this as she is not really an MS specialist according to him. (She is nationally renowned, but hey, what does the rest of the nation know, he is God after all.)
He said based upon this, he will no longer prescribe me any medication.
So I am now left to deal with excruciating muscle spasms with no relief.
I am losing my Copaxone.
I have muscle spasms, optic neuritis, numbness, tingling, weakness, legs that feel like lead, fatigue, burning sensations, cobweb feeling and many other issues.
I am scared. What happens now when i relapse. I can get no help. I am so scared.
I am going to try to drive to Pittsburgh for help. Anyone know a good MS dr there?
My old MS dr gave me the diagnosis despite the negative spinal tap because of the lesions, symptoms, relapses, evoked response tests. He did not even look at my MRI, EVER.
All he did was read the report and even though every radiologist said the lesions were consistent with MS, that means nothing, half the people in the world have lesions. The increase in lesions over the last 10 years... mean nothing, the evoked response test, nothing, they can be wrong. I had one showing significant decline... when my ON was really bad. One done recently when I was stable and it was normal.
He said no way can I get 2 different results, so one must be wrong and he is choosing the one saying I have ON.
My eye doctor diagnosed me with ON.
I don't know what to do.
I will see another neuro, a specialist this time. But this dr won't even check me for anything else. He is done with me, sending me on my way. If not MS, then would he not want to find out what it is?
I am so angry and scared. What will I do without medications. What do I do when the pain hits? The last time, I wanted to die. I don't want to reach that point.
I'm really sorry that you're doctor is such a jerk. For now maybe try going to your family doctor and ask to start on LDN until you can be prescribed copaxone?
Keep us posted. Can't imagine how you must feel.
you are in my thoughts
cheers
Not just me, but the other 5 too. If it was just me, I would get it. But now 6, this is obvious what he is doing. And he never looked at my MRI. I mean, I don't have hundreds of lesions but I have 20. And I started out with 3, 10 years ago. Something is happening.
I am fighting. I will find a specialist. I will get help. My girls need me.
Thanks everyone.
The MRI is one of the best things to happen as far as diagnosis goes at least in my opinion. It doesn't matter if you have 5 lesions or 500! I only had a few lesions at the time of diagnosis but my specialist also noted changes in parts of my brain (I think around the area where spinal fluid comes up) that are classic MS. The best thing that ever happened in this process was my neuro going over my MRI scan with me and my husband.
Stay strong and positive. Vent to us as much as you need to. Keep us posted.
I would love to not have MS. But when a specialist looks at the whole picture, shows me the MRIs, the lesions, the test results and tells me in detail why I have MS, not just from the MRI, I tend to believe her... and the others moreso than some dr who only looks at 1 single test and ignores all else.
It is just emotionally hard, to spend 10 years as thinking or knowing what is wrong with you and then have it yanked.
I am fighting for myself and letting him go in my mind... but only after i take steps to try and stop him from hurting others. Posting on sites that rate doctors, contacting my old neuro and calling the American Medical whatever, not sure who it is I need to contact, but I will.
Someone said I should sue him... and he does need to be stopped, but I won't sue, because I refuse to let him rule that much of my life. Plus, for every doctor I can find saying I have MS, he can find one saying I don't.
He is just unethical and not treating his patients right and my goal is to stop him from doing this to others. The specialist who left, left behind over 500 MS patients from WV and some from Ohio and Kentucky. She left a huge mess... and these people deserve proper care.
So, I will still be around. I still have MS, until an MS specialist tells me otherwise. One already diagnosed me.
This loser is just trying to say it is sleep apnea. He is a sleep disorder doctor.
I am calmed down a bit now. Thanks everyone.
you need to find another opinion! wow-this sucks
I'm really bummed for you
I'm also totally in awe too
the first thing I would think is-see-I don't really have it-
shows you've accepted it
that you have the courage to face all this-very impressive-rely on that strength-it's a rare and valuable atribute
I expressed my concerns, fears and how I was treated. He replied back with this...
"I feel your frustration...
I spoke with some friends and Dr. Scott was who they suggested as
well. If it is okay with you we will try to set you up as soon as
possible. I can continue to write your MS medications until we get in
with Dr. Scott.
I do believe you still have MS a neg tap is worthless at any stage of
the disease but especially after this long of treatment.
Thanks"
This made me cry. I am so thankful for an answer for now.