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I wanted to share this ! This could be Huge !
Multiple Sclerosis research: the thalamus moves into the spotlight
This 3D view shows a composite of the thalamus of healthy controls (outlined in red) and MS patients (magenta). The whole thalamus is generally smaller in MS due to atrophy, and is also shifted (as seen in blue) slightly beyond the position of the normal thalamus due to atrophy of other parts of the brain.
Atrophy of the thalamus is an important predictor of clinically definite MS, study shows
By: Ellen Goldbaum
Release Date: March 21, 2013
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The location of the thalamus in the brain, its unique function and its vulnerability to changes wrought by the disease make the thalamus a critical barometer of the damage that MS causes to the brain.
Robert Zivadinov, professor of neurology
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BUFFALO, N.Y. A growing body of research by multiple sclerosis (MS) investigators at the University at Buffalo and international partners is providing powerful new evidence that the brains gray matter reflects important changes in the disease that could allow clinicians to diagnose earlier and to better monitor and predict how the disease will progress.
Over the past three years, the UB researchers and their partners around the world, supported by an active fellowship program at UBs Buffalo Neuroimaging Analysis Center (BNAC), have published journal papers and given presentations demonstrating that the thalamus region, in particular, is key to a host of issues involving MS.
The thalamus is providing us with a new window on MS, says Robert Zivadinov, MD, PhD, UB professor of neurology, BNAC director and leader of the research team. In our recent studies, we have used large datasets to investigate the evolution of atrophy of the thalamus and its association with clinical impairment in MS, starting with the earliest stages of the disease. The location of the thalamus in the brain, its unique function and its vulnerability to changes wrought by the disease make the thalamus a critical barometer of the damage that MS causes to the brain.
Zivadinov and UB professor of neurology Ralph Benedict discuss the new research in a video at (http://youtu.be/QhsaHeBjZrA).
At the annual meeting of the American Academy of Neurology today, Zivadinov will discuss a study he performed in collaboration with colleagues from Charles University in Prague. The study found that atrophy of the thalamus, determined with MRI, can help identify which patients with clinically isolated syndrome (CIS), a patients first episode of MS, are at risk for developing clinically definite MS. Such a tool would be immensely helpful to clinicians, Zivadinov notes.
This study, which included more than 200 patients, shows that thalamic atrophy is one of the most important predictors of clinically definite MS, says Dana Horakova, MD, PhD, the principal investigator at Charles University.
Therefore, based on these findings, we think MRI should be used to determine which patients are at highest risk for a second attack, explains Zivadinov.
MS is traditionally viewed as a disease of the brains white matter, in which myelin, the fatty material surrounding neurons that allows them to signal effectively, is gradually destroyed. The UB researchers are now revealing how the thalamus and other parts of the brains gray matter, play a key role as well.
Central to a wide variety of neurologic functions, the thalamus is involved in motor and sensory function, the regulation of sleep and wakefulness, memory, emotion, consciousness, awareness and attention. It functions as a kind of relay center in the brain, taking in sensory information and sending it to the cerebral cortex; it also processes information coming from the cortex.
Another study, which the UB researchers conducted in collaboration with Stavanger University Hospital in Norway, is the first to look at the evolution of thalamic atrophy over a 10-year period in MS patients. Results also will be presented at the AAN meeting.
This study of 81 patients found that atrophy in the cortex and subcortical deep grey matter, including the thalamus, was significantly related to patients declining cognitive abilities. We found that cognitive dysfunction appears early in the course of MS and that thalamic atrophy plays a central role in predicting cognitive deterioration over the long-term, says Zivadinov.
In a review paper published earlier this year in Neurology, Zivadinov and co-authors note that gray matter injury can not only be detected in the diseases earliest stages but that this injury is associated with a wide range of symptoms from cognitive decline and motor deficits to fatigue and chronic pain.
The UB findings reveal that atrophy of the thalamus, determined through routine magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), can be an important tool in detecting, evaluating and predicting the course of MS in children and adults; it also may become a valuable method of evaluating new MS treatments.
Loss of thalamic volume and its tissue integrity can also predict cognitive impairment in MS patients, according to a study recently published in Multiple Sclerosis Journal led by UB neurology professor Ralph Benedict in collaboration with Jeroen JG Geurts, PhD, from VU University Medical Center in Amsterdam, the Netherlands.
Research currently in press by the UB team and performed in collaboration with colleagues from Charles University in Prague also was the first prospective, longitudinal study to investigate and find associations between grey matter atrophy and physical disability progression in patients with relapsing-remitting MS, the most common and most disabling type of MS.
The five-year study, which covered 180 patients, also found that thalamic atrophy has p0tential as a way to evaluate novel therapies for MS, according to Eva Havrdova, MD, PhD, principal investigator.
Since progressive pathology of the thalamus has been shown in all different MS disease types, including in pediatric MS patients, we must look at the thalamus as a biomarker for assessing new therapies, says Zivadinov. Measurement of thalamic atrophy may become an ideal MRI outcome for MS clinical trials.
Atrophy in MS patients happens in the thalamus more rapidly than in other brain structures, Zivadinov continues. It is detectable very early in the disease and it is less affected by fluid shifts in the brain, an effect of anti-inflammatory drugs used in MS. This feature in particular, makes thalamic atrophy an ideal candidate for assessing novel therapies.
These findings, says Zivadinov, are just the beginning. Until now, existing information about thalamic involvement in MS has stemmed mainly from neuropathologic and neuroimaging studies with a limited number of subjects that contain no clear practical implications for clinicians. The team at UB, of researchers and fellows, together with our global partners, is planning to undertake larger, longitudinal studies in order to comprehensively determine how best to apply these very promising findings.
The BNAC, part of the UB Department of Neurology, is located in the Buffalo General Medical Center on the Buffalo Niagara Medical Campus.
UB co-authors with Zivadinov on these studies are: Ralph Benedict, Bianca Weinstock-Guttman, Murali Ramanathan, Michael G. Dwyer and Niels Bergsland. Co-authors at VU University Medical Center are Jeroen JG Geurts, Hanneke E Hulst and Menno M Schoonheim; at Charles University in Prague: Dana Horakova, Eva Havrdova, Michaela Tyblova, Zdenek Seidl, Manuela Vaneckova, Jan Krasensky and Tomas Kalincik.
Other co-authors are Alireza Minagar, Louisiana State University; Michael H. Barnett, University of Sydney, Australia; Daniel Pelletier, Yale University; Mohamad Ali Sahraian, Tehran University of Medical Sciences; Istvan Pirko, the Mayo Clinic; Elliott Frohman, UT Southwestern Medical Center; Cecilie Jacobsen, Turi O Dalaker, Elisabeth Farbu, Jan Petter Larsen and Kirsten Lode of Stavanger University Hospital; and Kjell-Morten Myhr and Harald Nyland, Haukeland University Hospital.
Multiple Sclerosis research: the thalamus moves into the spotlight
This 3D view shows a composite of the thalamus of healthy controls (outlined in red) and MS patients (magenta). The whole thalamus is generally smaller in MS due to atrophy, and is also shifted (as seen in blue) slightly beyond the position of the normal thalamus due to atrophy of other parts of the brain.
Atrophy of the thalamus is an important predictor of clinically definite MS, study shows
By: Ellen Goldbaum
Release Date: March 21, 2013
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The location of the thalamus in the brain, its unique function and its vulnerability to changes wrought by the disease make the thalamus a critical barometer of the damage that MS causes to the brain.
Robert Zivadinov, professor of neurology
High-Res Image
Zivadinov_447x260.jpg
BUFFALO, N.Y. A growing body of research by multiple sclerosis (MS) investigators at the University at Buffalo and international partners is providing powerful new evidence that the brains gray matter reflects important changes in the disease that could allow clinicians to diagnose earlier and to better monitor and predict how the disease will progress.
Over the past three years, the UB researchers and their partners around the world, supported by an active fellowship program at UBs Buffalo Neuroimaging Analysis Center (BNAC), have published journal papers and given presentations demonstrating that the thalamus region, in particular, is key to a host of issues involving MS.
The thalamus is providing us with a new window on MS, says Robert Zivadinov, MD, PhD, UB professor of neurology, BNAC director and leader of the research team. In our recent studies, we have used large datasets to investigate the evolution of atrophy of the thalamus and its association with clinical impairment in MS, starting with the earliest stages of the disease. The location of the thalamus in the brain, its unique function and its vulnerability to changes wrought by the disease make the thalamus a critical barometer of the damage that MS causes to the brain.
Zivadinov and UB professor of neurology Ralph Benedict discuss the new research in a video at (http://youtu.be/QhsaHeBjZrA).
At the annual meeting of the American Academy of Neurology today, Zivadinov will discuss a study he performed in collaboration with colleagues from Charles University in Prague. The study found that atrophy of the thalamus, determined with MRI, can help identify which patients with clinically isolated syndrome (CIS), a patients first episode of MS, are at risk for developing clinically definite MS. Such a tool would be immensely helpful to clinicians, Zivadinov notes.
This study, which included more than 200 patients, shows that thalamic atrophy is one of the most important predictors of clinically definite MS, says Dana Horakova, MD, PhD, the principal investigator at Charles University.
Therefore, based on these findings, we think MRI should be used to determine which patients are at highest risk for a second attack, explains Zivadinov.
MS is traditionally viewed as a disease of the brains white matter, in which myelin, the fatty material surrounding neurons that allows them to signal effectively, is gradually destroyed. The UB researchers are now revealing how the thalamus and other parts of the brains gray matter, play a key role as well.
Central to a wide variety of neurologic functions, the thalamus is involved in motor and sensory function, the regulation of sleep and wakefulness, memory, emotion, consciousness, awareness and attention. It functions as a kind of relay center in the brain, taking in sensory information and sending it to the cerebral cortex; it also processes information coming from the cortex.
Another study, which the UB researchers conducted in collaboration with Stavanger University Hospital in Norway, is the first to look at the evolution of thalamic atrophy over a 10-year period in MS patients. Results also will be presented at the AAN meeting.
This study of 81 patients found that atrophy in the cortex and subcortical deep grey matter, including the thalamus, was significantly related to patients declining cognitive abilities. We found that cognitive dysfunction appears early in the course of MS and that thalamic atrophy plays a central role in predicting cognitive deterioration over the long-term, says Zivadinov.
In a review paper published earlier this year in Neurology, Zivadinov and co-authors note that gray matter injury can not only be detected in the diseases earliest stages but that this injury is associated with a wide range of symptoms from cognitive decline and motor deficits to fatigue and chronic pain.
The UB findings reveal that atrophy of the thalamus, determined through routine magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), can be an important tool in detecting, evaluating and predicting the course of MS in children and adults; it also may become a valuable method of evaluating new MS treatments.
Loss of thalamic volume and its tissue integrity can also predict cognitive impairment in MS patients, according to a study recently published in Multiple Sclerosis Journal led by UB neurology professor Ralph Benedict in collaboration with Jeroen JG Geurts, PhD, from VU University Medical Center in Amsterdam, the Netherlands.
Research currently in press by the UB team and performed in collaboration with colleagues from Charles University in Prague also was the first prospective, longitudinal study to investigate and find associations between grey matter atrophy and physical disability progression in patients with relapsing-remitting MS, the most common and most disabling type of MS.
The five-year study, which covered 180 patients, also found that thalamic atrophy has p0tential as a way to evaluate novel therapies for MS, according to Eva Havrdova, MD, PhD, principal investigator.
Since progressive pathology of the thalamus has been shown in all different MS disease types, including in pediatric MS patients, we must look at the thalamus as a biomarker for assessing new therapies, says Zivadinov. Measurement of thalamic atrophy may become an ideal MRI outcome for MS clinical trials.
Atrophy in MS patients happens in the thalamus more rapidly than in other brain structures, Zivadinov continues. It is detectable very early in the disease and it is less affected by fluid shifts in the brain, an effect of anti-inflammatory drugs used in MS. This feature in particular, makes thalamic atrophy an ideal candidate for assessing novel therapies.
These findings, says Zivadinov, are just the beginning. Until now, existing information about thalamic involvement in MS has stemmed mainly from neuropathologic and neuroimaging studies with a limited number of subjects that contain no clear practical implications for clinicians. The team at UB, of researchers and fellows, together with our global partners, is planning to undertake larger, longitudinal studies in order to comprehensively determine how best to apply these very promising findings.
The BNAC, part of the UB Department of Neurology, is located in the Buffalo General Medical Center on the Buffalo Niagara Medical Campus.
UB co-authors with Zivadinov on these studies are: Ralph Benedict, Bianca Weinstock-Guttman, Murali Ramanathan, Michael G. Dwyer and Niels Bergsland. Co-authors at VU University Medical Center are Jeroen JG Geurts, Hanneke E Hulst and Menno M Schoonheim; at Charles University in Prague: Dana Horakova, Eva Havrdova, Michaela Tyblova, Zdenek Seidl, Manuela Vaneckova, Jan Krasensky and Tomas Kalincik.
Other co-authors are Alireza Minagar, Louisiana State University; Michael H. Barnett, University of Sydney, Australia; Daniel Pelletier, Yale University; Mohamad Ali Sahraian, Tehran University of Medical Sciences; Istvan Pirko, the Mayo Clinic; Elliott Frohman, UT Southwestern Medical Center; Cecilie Jacobsen, Turi O Dalaker, Elisabeth Farbu, Jan Petter Larsen and Kirsten Lode of Stavanger University Hospital; and Kjell-Morten Myhr and Harald Nyland, Haukeland University Hospital.
I would like to add some pertinent information to this post that are summed up with two points.
1.) avoiding MSGs and all other 20 names it goes by
2.) go to a Bio-identical Hormone endocrinologist for testing.
---- Reasoning for the above two points ------
A few other interesting points of data are that the thalamus needs needs GABA. The below websites states "All thalamic nuclei contain many inhibitory interneurons (GABAergic" http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rswenson/NeuroSci/chapter_10.html
Another research point is that estradiol extends effects of GABA in brain. Therefore this leads to one of the differences between men and women's brains.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12086749
Since more women are diagnosed with MS than men...well this is a curious point.
There are studies on how bio-identical estrogen (there are over 30 types of estrogen..estriol being end conversion and anti-cancer from what I have read) were helpful to a significant portion of the participants.(See links below) Could part of this reason be because it extends the life of GABA and therefore helpful to the thalamus?
GABA is used in the thalamus and in many cases is inhibitory on nerves. So the nerves of your brain are like a car. You need gas and in the brain this is sometimes glutamate, which is usually higher in MS patients during relapse. The main brake is GABA.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22674255
If you have too much stimulation this is called neurotoxic as it kills nerves.
One of the drugs for MS is to reduce glutamate & it is in phase 2 trials. This would reduce stimulation..kinda like increasing inhibition. Like I have said before, ALS's best drug is to reduce glutamate which is much higher in ALS than it is in MS. This goes back to some of my previous posts about staying away from Mono sodium glutamate (MSGs) as well as looking into bio-identical hormone replacement therapy (BHRT).
MS Female Hormone Replacement Research
http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/loved-ones-who-support-someone-with-ms/discussions/messages/14613015
MS Male Hormone Replacement Research
http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/loved-ones-who-support-someone-with-ms/discussions/messages/14613104
MSGs are BAD
http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/loved-ones-who-support-someone-with-ms/discussions/messages/14076608
Again thanks for the post,
EP
PS Does anyone else have any thoughts on this topic?
It is not the most scientific place for info but you could discuss the foods and minerals, brought up in the URL below, with your doctor to see if it right for you.
http://www.gabahghsupplement.com/increase-gaba-levels-brain
http://www.gabahghsupplement.com/4-kinds-supplements-boost-gaba
1. B complex vitamins
2. L-Theanine 200 mg to 800 mg a day
3. Magnesium Glycinate 400-1,000 mg
4. Taurine 1,000 to 5,000 milligrams a day
Again speak to a doc before starting supplement programs.
PS. In reply #1 I wrote "estriol being end conversion" it is not the end of convertion to all estrogens. It just the end of the classic 3 known estrogens... estrone (E1)-> estradiol (E2) -> estroil (E3)
Anyway I just wanted to clarify that point.
I have not seen any Fibro research on the thalamus shrinking nor have I seen low dopamine in MS research. If you have found research in these areas please post.
I have heard that SSRIs, which increase effectiveness of feel good serotonin hormone, are used as treatment of MS depression.
http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/multiple_sclerosis/detail_multiple_sclerosis.htm
There have been some research on subjective patient outcomes using low doses of cannabis which improved depression /emotional dysfunction. It is known that low dose cannabis can increase serotonin in the brain. However, I have not read any studies on dopamine in MS patients.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/ww_en_db_study_show.php?s_id=217
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/ww_en_db_study_show.php?s_id=13
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071023183937.htm
There are many discrepancies between Firbo and MS ie bowel & urinary dysfunction, optic neuritis, color blindness, lost of taste, MS HUG,etc. Fibro may have gait issues but they don't become wheelchair dependent in most cases. Something is different between these diseases. At this time we don't know root cause of either of them.
Parkinsons and Huntingtons disease have tremors too. However, they are different kinds of tremors caused by two separate things.
Parkinson's (to little movement with resting tremor) is loss of melatonin and dopamine in the substantia nigra.
Huntingtons (too much movement with tremor) is a genetic problem that causes degeneration of GABA in the basal ganglia.
I have seen the grey matter studies with MS before. However, I have seen no research I asked about at the beginning of this reply. I am not saying that low dopamine may not be contributing to MS. It is just without any evidence I am not willing to say deteriorating grey matter is due to low dopamine because that is what is contributing to it in Firbo.
I like the out of the box thinking and hope they do a study on this to see if it might..or might not be contributing to the grey matter loss in MS. We do know that if glutamate is too high it can kill neurons. They also know glutamate rises in MS research participants before relapse and highest during relapse. It might be what ever is causing the neuron death then leaves cells to dump their glutamate which makes things worse. Then neuron death slows and glutamate levels evens off as it is removed.
What we don't know is if it low serotonin, low dopamine or something else is causing the shrinkage of thalamus and grey matter?
We do know that the thalamus has a lot of GABA receptors and needs calming GABA especially when there is too much stimulating forces ie higher levels of glutamate.
Love the discussion Triad ( :
THANK YOU for posting this research. I have posted on low grey matter in MS but I have never seen this research.
I do appreciate the information ( :
I researched this 4 years ago because my favorite aunt and daughter have RLS + my aunt has RA too. I thought that it might be due to metabolism, malabsorption issue that caused a deficiency that led to tissue degrade. When you move you decrease the deficiney. Since RLS leads to increase risk of several DIFFERENT diseases I thought that X component might be different for different people.
So I started looking for research on RLS being a metabolism issue. Low and behold a week later I found a Dr. Conner at Penn State. His research found low iron in the RLS autopsy he conducted. When I called him this is the test he said he did. He found this deficiency was because of a metabolism issue. However, not all people with RLS have iron deficiency.
I tried my daughter on mineral with iron for 2 weeks without decrease in symptoms. I changed to a highly absorbable multivitamin withOUT iron and within a few days she didn't have RLS. My aunt went on the same thing at a higher quantity and reduced her Requip in 1/2 within the first month but has not been able to reduce it further. However, whenever she has tried to go off vitamins for even a day her symptoms get much worse...per her and she is a CCU RN.
I have never heard of the dopamine issue with RLS though. Thanks for the information.
1, Most people avoid MSG--I have been aware of its hazards for 45 yrs and not eaten it knowingly during that time.
2. Interferon has been shown to reduce brain atrophy and a good reason to stay on a therapy drug. I have gone to lectures given by neuro specialists pH.D who took MRIs of two groups for 14 yrs--those who were on interferon and those not on inteferon. The difference in atrophy and lesions was alarming and very convincing to me to stay the course w/my interferon. Pictures are worth a thousand words.
3, Perhaps those of you who have keen interest in research should start a subgroup so your posts would be always accessible and you would not have to repeat ideas.
4, I saw my new neuro doc who specializes in MS this week. I asked him about B12 and MS and he said there is not anything to it. Just repeating what he said. He sees hundreds of MS patients and was extremely on the ball. We'll see because I requested a B12 and D test. I am stable MS patient and my MRI was unchanged in 10 yrs, although I have progressed in that time, but not much.
Thanks, Mommie4 for posting this.
Also, Epagain, there was a blood study re relatives w/ auto immune diseases. It was a blood study over 5 yrs ago. Dont know results. Most people w/ MS has a relative (aunt, nephew, cousin) with an auto immune. I have MS and nephew w/ diabetes Type 1. everyone I know / MS has relative w/ autoimmune (lupus, diabetes 1, MS, etc.)
My hubby has never went off his Rebif (beta interferon), except for 2 weeks when insurance was refusing to pay for it. I believe in fighting this monster from every angle possible. I would never suggest someone come off them unless they are switching to different therapy ie Tysabri due to liver enzyme issues etc.
As far as B12 goes if you don't have enough Intrinsic Factor (IF) in stomach or 2 other enzymes dumped in duodenum this can lead to MS like symptoms. It should be ruled out before getting an MS diagnosis.
PS You said you had a nephew with Type 1 (autoimmune) diabetes. You might be interested in following the below research. Harvard has found a hormone called ** beta-trophin**. They found the MICE they gave beta-trophin to made 30 times more pancreatic beta cells. Pancreatic beta cells are what secrete insulin. They need to do more research to see if this is true in humans too. http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/04/potential-diabetes-breakthrough/
1.) DopaBean (has 50mg of L-Dopa),
2.) L-theanine (increases GABA and Dopamine), or
3.) L-Dopa + Carbadopa (extends functionality of Dopa)
Please post results.
http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/loved-ones-who-support-someone-with-ms/discussions/messages/14005425
This vitamin has quite a list of vitamins, minerals and MICROnutrients:
NAC
* Milk Thistle
* Tart cherry (Prunus cerasus) proanthocyanidin
* Lycopene [from Tomat-O-Red9 natural tomato extract (fruit)]
* HiActives13 fruit/berry complex (proprietary blend of blackberry, blueberry, cherry, cranberry, elderberry, persimmon, prune powders)
* Broccoli sprout concentrate (A proprietary blend of broccoli sprout concentrates and Calcium D-Glucarate2) (providing glucosinolates, sulforaphane, D-3T, PEITC)
Some of the vitamins include:
Choline (as choline bitartrate) 120 mg
Phosphatidylcholine (from soy) 150 mg
Vitamin B12 (as hydroxocobalamin acetate) 600 mcg
Folate [from lemon (Citrus limon) extract (peel)]400 mcg
+ B1, B2, B3, B6, Botin and pantothenic acid, etc, etc
See URL below for complete list of contents for these vitamins.
http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item01764/Life-Extension-Mix-Capsules-without-Copper.html?source=search&key=life
My hubby takes about 5-6 capsules a day which is just about half max daily dose and thus half of the quantities above. B vitamins are high in this capsule because you only absorb about 2% of what you eat. Stomach acids etc destroy most of it. Even then you get a LOT of what you need to make Ach for memory. This is ..if your body can make Ach with raw materials.
The Dopamine, on the other hand, is not something people ingest as nutrients thus my questions on that topic.
It would be nice to KNOW WHY people with MS have these deficiencies.
Best wishes to all,
EP
GOD Bless you all!!!!!!!