I second that motion and want add a side note that recommends canibus hater take the stick out of their culos. I'm not even going to comment further than it's 2013 people! If you still have major problems with marijuana, you yourself probably should just move on, globally it is going nowhere and will ALWAYS grow naturally. Compliments to fullmetal, finally someone speaks up and says "This debate is not only old news, it's also getting a little boring and annoying. I feel sorry for anyone who depreciates great medicine (and recreation) so gratfying as cannibus. I'm at the point where I have lost the desire to speak to marijuana haters, it's just to much ignorance to allow a good life to continue. Since we use a PC Web and someone might really be suffering from weed ingestion habitually, if this shoe doesn't fit don't where it, and I hope you find sobriety. When it comes to me, I'd be crazy to admit honestly marijuana isn't more productive for me than other remedies. If there could just be a remey from the ignorance and baseless hate, my highs would be alot more worth while! It's not a drug if it's a God given plant in the first place. Six years of moderately heavy alcohol consumption was way worse in hind sight than all my years of marijuana use combined. If people have problems with others appreciating marijuana, it's a good indication their drug is hate, and they deserve to stay low with that choice. Peace

While I agree with much of what you saying, after 30 years of smoking it, it no longer fits into my life.

After 30 years of smoking it, it is also hard to quit which is why there are support groups like this one. For people who want to quit.

If there are people who quit or want to quit, that is up to them. Just like it is up to you if you want to smoke it.

Yeah you guys don't belong in this group, it is for people who do have a problem and for whom it's messed up our lives. If you don't have a problem or don't think you have a problem, wonderful, all the power to you. This isn't the forum to come to and judge those of us that do have a problem and wish to separate from this very subtle but powerful drug.

When you write something ignorant in response, I won't see it, I've already ignored both of you. Peace out. I wish you long healthy lives, with or without needing substances.

despite the OP being almost a year old, i'm compelled to chime in especially with the responses it has received so far...

i've been a daily user for almost 10 years now and have been telling myself to quit for a while now, but THIS topic is a huge reason i struggle to make the choice:

- is this really so bad? studies don't show serious health risks and people never die directly from an overdose

- i can continue to outperform my peers at work. i'm super smart & super reliable despite my addiction (sorry to pat myself on the back...)

FULLMETALHEART!
forget what other people are telling you (like your mom) because choosing to stop smoking *can really only come from you*

for YEARS i refused to believe i had an addiction, that my compulsive desire to smoke was fueled primarily by my love of being high and not because i was dependent on it (ha, is there a distinction between the two?)

i know TONS of hyper-productive, super-successful, and over-achieving potheads in NYC. we fancied ourselves productive addicts, ones that do not burden society by being high 24/7. we wore the addiction like a badge of honor for many years...

but as the years went on, the feeling changed... maybe i changed. while i was still relatively productive, i couldn't ignore the feeling that i was not running at full capacity. even if i earned an A- on my report, my brain was only running at 75%. what was i leaving on the table?

for me, i knew my addiction was out of control when i HAD to smoke and could only think about my next joint (is that so different than nicotine addiction?), i was way less social than before (or am i getting older?), and i hate how it made me smell & look (but who cares?)....

i also realized i had an addiction when i found a smart excuse for EVERY reason to quit.

forget about the haters, they will always be there. just be sure you CONTINUALLY reflect on your life, strive to be ever self-aware, and be brutally honest about how you feel. don't be afraid to admit smoking isn't fun... hell it could STILL be fun but also cause you anxiety.

TL;DR VERSION
recognizing & admitting addiction is the first step, and can be the most difficult...

There used to be a lot more replies from haters on this post, but the site moderator must have deleted them. There was one guy with a few different accounts that would go around and respond to everything, saying that there is no such thing as problems associated with too much weed.

I like your post. I'd love to respond with my own experience, point for point...but at this point, I have to goooooo for the day!
Peace to you,

Deciding to quit should be a personal decision, at least when it comes to MJ. I only say this because I have never met a smoker who couldn't still be themselves at their core. In other words, whether they were an achiever or a loser, kind or cruel, law abiding or law breaking - adding pot to the mix never seemed to change what they were to begin with.

We all change over time due to life experiences and the simple fact that our tastes and beliefs change with age, but if you think that herb is at the core of the issue then by all means, give quitting a shot. If you have trouble quitting then addiction is the issue and you should seek out help.

I have quit a few times (for months or years) without a problem, even though each time I quit I did it unwillingly. And during those periods of abstinence I saw no improvement or decline in my life that I could have honestly attributed to the lack of herb.

Smoking weed is a bad thing if it is hurting the user emotionally and mentally. It is bad when you spend every last penny on purchasing weed even when you should be spending your money on better things. Weed is a problem when you have to smoke a joint to relax at night or to sleep, you should be able to do these things without drugs for the most part. If you rely on it to do normal things, that's not normal.

I could go all day, but to answer your question in one statement. Weed is bad when the user feels harmed by it and out of control in It's use.

This forum is about addiction support, and addiction isn't nice, no matter what it is.

Mr.Anonon. I fully agree.
I know for me - am not speaking for other people - daily weed smoking from the moment I woke up until the moment I went to sleep, for 26 years, affected me to the core of my being. I didn't turn into a violent a-hole, but I did adopt a whole ton of behaviors and priorities which negatively impacted my relationship to the world. I was a changed person.

I loose my mind when I use pot. The last time I used it, I chose it over my family, job, and home. I literally ran away from my wife, kids and job so I could smoke pot 24/7. I was on the street begging for money to support my habit. I had all the same reasons for not hating it - that it's medicinal, that God put it here for us, that if the world were different, there wouldn't be a problem. If this post were about why we stopped or what happens to us when we smoked, this would be my reply.

You came to a forum for people who are trying to stay sober from a substance that has caused them harm. I have to question the rational for this decision. In fact, I've heard that a lot of alcoholics go to Alcoholics Anonymous meetings hoping they would learn to control their drinking. Since addicts are known to be crafty, I'm wondering if what you're saying is true. I'm betting it's more like your life is not so great, and you're looking for advice on how to keep smoking weed while not ruining your life and getting your mom off your back.

Uhg. That sounds like my husband. When he comes down he is nasty. He has a horrible temper. I have found that in common with all the pot smokers I dated before I was married too. It also started to take more and more pot for him to get high. I just recently told my hubs to get sober. It was hard for me to see him stoned out of his mind and on a different plane than me. It is about his 3rd week sober and he is doing well! I am glad I don't have to smell him as well anymore. Pot smokers always think that other people can't tell and that they don't bother anyone! Soooo not true!

I don't know why but hubs became a negative asshole when he was sober too. This is just from my experience. I have nothing to back this stuff up:).

Try to see the natural beauty in the world without drugs!

He became negative when he was coming down. He finally has a clear mind. 3 weeks in...

Yeah, it's cause pot smokers are smarter than everyone else....maaaaan;). Always!!!! I had to slap hubs off of his pakalolo smoky high horse.