Liars Anonymous Community Group

A support group to provide those with a compulsive addiction to lie a place to share hope, strength and courage with others like them; solve our common problem and help others with a compulsion to lie. We aren't alone!

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Ryliegirl 01/07/2017

I continued my way of either white lying or exaggerating all day long. It's so natural to me that I can't even look back and pick out the lies from the truth, because they are completely blended together. THEN I GOT ONE OF THE GREAT SHOCKS WHEN I CAME ACROSS THIS QUOTE FROM A PHILOSOPHER, SAYING HOW HORRIBLE LIES ARE, AND THAT WHITE LIES ARE THE WORST OF ALL! I am stunned and need to think about this all day tomorrow:

"People think that a liar gains a victory over his victim. What I've learned is that a lie is an act of self-abdication, because one surrenders one's reality to the person to whom one lies, making that person one's master, condemning oneself from then on to faking the sort of reality that person's view requires to be faked. ... there are no white lies, as lies are the blackest of destruction, and a white lie is the blackest of all. I was still faking reality, and it had the inexorable result: instead of protection, it brought me a more terrible kind of ordeal...." -- Atlas Shrugged the book

TheCalligrapher 01/08/2017

wow, I try to read that book every few years and truthfully I pulled it off the shelf a day or two ago and read one of rearden's discussions with dagney. I did not remember that quote. how true and yet how difficult that is for me. how to be truly honest. is it something that one has to be brutal with or just subtle with remaining quiet when prudence is called for in opinion or should one always tell the absolute truth about our feelings and our thoughts. I don't know.

Ryliegirl 01/09/2017

One thing to remember about Ayn Rand, who wrote "Atlas Shrugged" is that she was known for making sweeping dramatic statements that would make her books more intense. That quote from "Shrugged" where she writes that white lies are the most evil of all the lies--NO WAY is that true. She was trying, in that paragraph, to create an intense book scene, so she made these sort of wild theatrical statements that really cannot be taken as truth. Remember that it was a novel that came from, not from aliens from another planet here to save our world. It was just a novelist.

mikeyrg 01/09/2017

I think one has to be very careful about white lies! Most of the time truth should prevail. Only if a significant harm to another is at stake should a white lie be considered appropriate. I think generally white lies make the teller feel better when the truth would have been ok.

DesperateForTruth 01/10/2017

I realized my job today is encourages white lies. Trying to sell service plans, while it isn't explicitly said, we are encouraged to sell sell sell!!! I caught myself so many times about to lie. I made it today, but I'm not sure how long it will be that I can hold out.

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