Kidney Stones Support Group

Kidney Stones are solid crystals of dissolved minerals in urine found inside the kidneys or ureters. They vary in size from as small as a grain of sand to as large as a golf ball. Kidney stones typically leave the body in the urine stream; if they grow relatively large before passing, obstruction of a ureter and distention with urine can cause severe pain most commonly...

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Littlefeather
Littlefeather

I am 62 years old and female.  I have been having kidney stones.  I am also prediabetic.  Here is my issue.  First of all, the diet that helps kidney function is carb intensive.  However the diet for prediabetes is carb limited.  I've investigated a vegan diet, but I have severe digestive issues and allergies.  Many of the foods on a vegan diet are not digestible for me.  So it seems to me either I sacrifice kidney function or eat air.


Then the doctor wanted to put me on Allipurinol to help stop formation of stones.  Well, if you read the list of possible side effects they range from awful to horrifying.  He is hoping to disolve a very large 10.5 mm stone in the lower pole deep in the meat of the kidney.  If that doesn't work he has to do it surgically.  Lithotripsy is not possible because I have severe issues in my spine.  They want to go in with a laser to remove it, and then put in a stent.


I am frustrated, I am depressed, I am angry, and I'm thinking leave me alone.  I want to throw all the kidney doctors into the ocean and hide under my covers for the rest of my life:(

OlderCPer
OlderCPer
I have chronic Kidney Stones, and have had surgery to remove large stuck stones and have had several stints. You don't necessarily have to go on a diet to promote kidney function so much as avoid foods that cause stones. Most kidney stones are Calcium Oxalate stones.

These foods include rhubarb, beets, okra, spinach, Swiss chard, sweet potatoes, nuts, tea, chocolate and soy products. Choose a diet low in salt and animal protein. If you work your diet to avoid these foods, and eat what's proper for your Diabetes you should be able to work out a healthy diet to benefit both with plenty of food choices.

Take care,
Littlefeather
Littlefeather
The issue is I don't eat any of those foods. As to low in animal protein I can't live on air. Pre-diabetes is high protein low carb diet, Kidney diet is low protein more carbs, they conflict . I don't eat much salt either.

In reading the results of my tests, they are confusing. It seems I'm making several types of stones, both uric and calcium oxalate.
Littlefeather
Littlefeather
From my reading:
Urine calcium is borderline elevated
borderline hyberoxaluria (not sure what that is)
Very low urine PH (but kidney values are normal)
Hyperuricosuria
mild uric saturation
Littlefeather
Littlefeather
I hear that the renal colic when a stent is put in is very painful. In doing some research people are saying even opiods don't touch the pain. I don't think I could handle this physically or emotionally. I'm pretty upset.
johnnycake
johnnycake
I compare lithotripsy to trying to clean house with a hand grenade and firehose. If it comes down to it, I will choose surgery.
newbiegal
newbiegal
I am experiencing my 1st stone and am just a bit younger than you and also pre-diabetic. I have sthe same concerns around diet. Currently I eat close to "paleo" low carb and from everything I am reading I am expecting the doctor to recommend cutting meat intake. I am also a good 40 lbs overweight and would be scared of gaining more if I increased carbs.
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