Insomnia Support Group
Insomnia is a symptom, rather than a disease, and is characterized by inadequate quantity or quality of sleep. People with insomnia complain of difficulty falling or staying asleep, which results in significant impairment of daytime functioning. Insomnia is categorized as transient (shorter than one week), short-term (one to three weeks) or chronic (longer than three...
kara2012
Do any of you think I'm abnormal because I'm never that tired/sleepy anymore? I think I'm abnormal because of that. I thought I would come out and ask. I don't want to be lectured on anything like CBT, etc , being as I don't think it could help my wide awake butt. I really do have a love/hate relationship going on with the meds I take. I'm afraid to try to go off them because I'm too wide awake to sleep off of them. I do worry about the sleep quality I get on them at the same time though. I also kind of worry about the long term effects it could have on me also. I do not and I will not take them every night, despite what some people especially in the psychairic? community may think. I stay up several nights, even though I shouldn't, instead of take meds every night. I also don't want to be lectured about how I shouldn't stay up al night despite me being wide awake. The weird thing is even though I hate being wide awake I enjoy staying up al night. I kind of find that it takes a little bit of my anxiety away about being so wide awake , perhaps because I'm just going to stay up because I'm wide awake anyway. ????? That being said I have laid down for a while early on several mornings after I've been up and although I haven't been tired I have fallen asleep for brief periods. I'm not sure how long, but I don't think it's for that long and it seems I have fallen asleep, had a dream and then woken up. One time not that long ago I did fall asleep not being tired and I actually woke up a little tiny less awake feeling than I usually am. It took me a tiny while to wake up all the way. I did that 2 nights in a row and the next night -actually it would have been early the next morning- I felt it a little and slept briefly but it was also very broken sleep. I had gone several days without taking the pills, which is kind of encouraging. I also didn't feel like I was in withdrawal yet, which I usually am by that point. I don't feel well when I'm in withdrawal and for some reason I was fine. I usually get sick to my stomach if I go too long without it. Seroquel is definitely not something to stop cold turkey for several reasons including withdrawal effects. Anyway, getting back to the subject, I don't think I would sleep that much without the meds because I'm too wide awake. I might just get short periods of sleep, almost more like very short naps and that might even be a good week, I'm afraid. I know I repeat myself, but this obviously does depress and bother me. I've been this way for a long time now. I just don't feel normal like this. I just feel that even if everything was mostly fine in my life, which if it's not I still would never be completely happy like this and I would always find it hard to completely enjoy my life probably. When I was a little better because I thought I was going to have a job I loved and I thought I had gotten perhaps the most lucky break of my life and I had been told I had been hired then found out I didn't get hired this wide awake crap still hung over me like a dark cloud. I rather be the opposite of me anytime, be tired all the time and require large amounts of sleep. I hate when people complain about being tired. It's my pet peeve, you could say. It's much more normal to be tired all the time than never tired. So many people are tired all the time anymore it seems like. I never had much issues with sleeping before this- before I became wide awake, al though I did go through a short period for some reason when I was a preteen where I had insomnia, but I still felt tired then. Then, apart from occasional nights here or there for some reason, up until I got like this, I was fine. I used to love to lay around. I just want to be "normal" again and I'm really worried I won't ever be "normal" again.
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You are not the only one who "never feels tired." Others posting here have described that as well, if that's any solace.
Not so sure it does any good to worry about what's normal or not normal. I think you're better off focusing on understanding and treating the root causes for the conditions that are causing you to lose sleep.
To do that, I would suggest staying with counseling and trying to rationally understand how the negative thoughts you have are not doing you any good and probably contributing to the problem.
So what if you don't feel tired ever? What good does worrying about that do? If you examine this thought and find it does you no good, why punish yourself? Wouldn't it be better to focus on solutions rather than problems?
I also think if you or anyone else has a truly medical issue -- and legitimately debilitating psychiatric conditions such as GAD, depression, or PTSD qualify -- then yes drug therapy under the supervision of a qualified healthcare professional who has examined you and understands your unique medical history is in order.
I still have hope that this new class of sleep drugs from Merck, suvorexant, may help you. My understanding is it supposedly works not by sedating, but by blocking the neurotransmitters that keep you aroused. In other words, it supposedly reduces what keeps you from feeling tired. Still awaiting approval from the FDA.
In the meantime maybe for just one day give yourself a break and be in the moment and see the inherent beauty and goodness that is all around you. It is there I assure you.
Best wishes to you Kara.
Hang in there. Sleep and wake are indeed the yin and yang. Each affects the other. Because we can't make ourselves sleep a certain way, doing things to "amplify" that circadian sleep/wake rhythm we all have goes a long way to help our sleep. Exercise and morning light, stress management, evening wind-down/relaxation, leaving the bed when alert, indifference to nocturnal time, consistent morning wake time. I've always liked the phrase "allow your sleepiness to emerge at night, don't try to force it."
Medical professionals know so much more about sleep now, so whether it's physical or psychological, seek out the care that's right for you.
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