Incest Survivors Support Group
Incest refers to any sexual activity between closely related persons that is illegal or socially taboo. Consensual adult incest is very rare. Incest between adults and prepubescent or adolescent children is a form of child sexual abuse that has been shown to be one of the most extreme forms of childhood trauma. If you or a loved one is a survivor of incest, join the group...
I had to leave another board.I tried to bring the issue of feeling unsafe on that board.
I could not believe people's reactions toward a guy who is still in denial for the children he abused.His having been abused in his childhood naturally draws their sympathy but some seem totally blind to the fact that he went on to abuse children right until his wife reported him.He blames her and thinks she should apologise to him for what she did.
What I find the most disturbing is not that this guy will not admit he is a sex offender ,it is the reactions of other members who fall for this guy's sweet manipulative comments and who admonish one not to bear judgment on one another.That "there is no good or bad".That we should all be compassionate and nice to one another.
The sad thing is a lot of members suffer because they encountered perpetrators who could manipulate them.
And how could this man heal if he does not face up to what he has really done?
I could not believe people's reactions toward a guy who is still in denial for the children he abused.His having been abused in his childhood naturally draws their sympathy but some seem totally blind to the fact that he went on to abuse children right until his wife reported him.He blames her and thinks she should apologise to him for what she did.
What I find the most disturbing is not that this guy will not admit he is a sex offender ,it is the reactions of other members who fall for this guy's sweet manipulative comments and who admonish one not to bear judgment on one another.That "there is no good or bad".That we should all be compassionate and nice to one another.
The sad thing is a lot of members suffer because they encountered perpetrators who could manipulate them.
And how could this man heal if he does not face up to what he has really done?
As far as I know he's been working hard not to re-offend.
I didn't really talk to him much because I found his past pretty distasteful.
BUT...I'm not entirely sure he needed to be driven off either.
He's gone now, so I guess the point is moot.
Moonface did not call out anyone and did not identify the board so none of us could have known who she wastalking about
with respect Dragonfly2810, Moonface knows tyzz27 is a member of this board and she knew he would read this and no doubt posted it with the expectation as such. Just like shed recently posted similarly on the Multiple Personalities Support Group. She would also know that a large(?) number of the members of the Multiple Personality board are also members of this board, and that they would be likely to identify tyzz27 from her description since far as i know he is the only person there or anywhere else to publicly admit that his wife found paedophile material on his computer and reported him to the police. The fact that she hasnt named tyzz27 in her posting does not mean that she hasnt identified him as her target. By naming tyzz27 i merely bring this mess out of the shadows Moonface likes to hide in and into the light.
I don't think you are following the rules of the road, k2hsharpe.
whilst its true Moonface doesnt identify anyone by name publicly, now or in the past, she will use enough information for people to identify her targets. But she does seem willing to identify them by name in either private chat or private message with others. A form of character assassination difficult to defend ones self from, wouldnt you agree? I already knew she was targeting me but i hadnt a clue the extent of her malice. I found out by accident because she didnt realise you can have friendships with people here on DS without formally being on each others friends list. She gave my name to a multiple friend here on DS. I was on DS chat with this friend shortly afterwards and one of her child alters came out. This child alter asked why Moonface didnt like me and asked if it was true i had sex with children. Have you any idea how angry i still am about this? To say i am beyond fucking livid doesnt come anywhere near describing how angry i am. So tell me Dragonfly2810, is Moonface following the rules of the road in this? Or do you expect more of me than you do of her?
So, if you would be so kind as to avoid personal attacks here on this board, that would be great.
since Moonface has publicly claimed tyzz27 and i are the same person in the past, then do you think people might possibly see this and her other postings as being a defacto attack on me also. I certainly do. Do you really think it unreasonable of me to respond publicly when and where ever i come across this woman labelling me unrepentant paedophile, even by proxy?
if you have any evidence what so ever supporting the accusations you make against tyzz27 in your original posting to this thread (other than what he has openly admitted to here on DS), please post it here now
if you have any evidence what so ever that tyzz27 and i are the same person, please post it here now
if you have any evidence what so ever that i am or have ever in the past participated in any type of paedophile activity, please post it here now
when i asked you to do this late last year you couldnt post a single thing to support your accusations. Not even a single thing reasonable people could say that ... no, that doesnt support her accusations but i can see how she might think it does. This isnt surprising though is it, youve made all of this up. I cant speak for tyzz27 other than to say i have never seen anything of him (other than what he has publicly admitted here on DS) to support your accusations. But i am not and never have been the person youve claimed i am
my point was that Moonface did not say anything publicly on this board about you or tyzz27, so you did not need to make it personal by talking about yourself or tyzz27 or the past communications among all of you and others. Why waste your energy on all of this anger? Moonface has not accused you or tyzz27 of anything here. You are the one stirring a controversy when all Moonface did in this post is raise some philosophical questions that were not personal to you or tyzz27 as far as any of us would know. You seem to have a lot of personal animosity towards a person who has always been helpful and kind here, so if you are trying to convince people you are right and she is wrong, you will have an uphill battle with me anyway.
Sure, i expect all of us to live by the same rules, and I don't hold her to a different standard, but I can only go with what I have seen - you bring up a lot of past history from only your perspective and not all of what you bring up could be personally known by you, so that makes it gossip. I am not going to judge Moonface based on your gossip. What I know is Moonface has been supportive and kind to us here on the incest board. I don't have enough information about you or tyzz27 to know anything about you except that you are angry.
I hope you can get over your anger towards Moonface and focus yourself in a more healing way.
I have to back up Dragonfly on this one--- moonface made no direct attacks to anyone, but was posing her question in a way that would allow others to respond without getting into all the "facts and innuendo" that you have brought up.
Moonface has not been seen as a manipulator or gossip-monger in this group - if she shows herself to be one, we will handle it at that time, and whereas you may have thought you were warning us, it sound more like you are slandering her.
You on the other-hand basically "called her out" and that is not how this board works. The population here has enough stress to deal with, without members attacking each other. We just had a similar situation with a new member and when their behavior became too intolerable, due to reporting to DS, his account was either frozen or he was banned, And in a few short days he had several members very upset and concerned about posting as they do not like to have others being so aggressive - they feared they would be the next target..
You may have very good reason to be upset with moonface, but with all respect, we do not. She has been a very kind and considerate member here and until she proves otherwise, that is how she will be accepted.
I have read tyzz27's profile and I have to say, if you are going to admit to being a previous sex offender, this is probably not the group to join - when you stick such as that our there, you should realize it's gonna get whacked. He also talks about how he has forgiven himself and is angry that his ex- will not let him see her kids....really? Many of us here will be dealing with the devastation that sexual abuse brought to our lives, for the REST of our lives. He may have forgiven himself, but he spoke nothing of what he has done to ask forgiveness from his victim(s). He may be a very kind and repentant person, but again, many members here would find it difficult to accept him as they could not understand how one forgives oneself that easily when it is taking many of us DECADES to get over our abuse, if we ever do; I know that had I offended, I would carry the shame of that to the grave, as I have said in the past - I would not look for self forgiveness and certainly would not talk about it in that way. Being an abuse victim does not make it okay to offend as an adult. He would find little forgiveness here, I am afraid.
I say all of this with respect - I do hear your anger at moonface, but again, that is not how this board works and, with respect, we ask that you not openly attack anyone on this forum. If you have a problem with their posts, you can report them to DS, but in this case, you are the one that has stepped out of bounds. Please respect us enough not to continue such.
Thanks,
Refuse2quit