Seems to me that some people have a problem with the concept of true 'Universal Healthcare'. "It's a great idea, as long as I don't have to pay for people who make bad choices and don't look after themselves"... Well chaps, that is what living in a healthy community is all about. We look after those of us less able and more vulnerable than us. Not one of us is perfect, not one of us is any more deserving of anything than the next person, not one of us is God. We are all God, and we cannot excise parts of our society like a tumor, and toss them in the trash. Many of us here are working a program of recovery, some of us are here because of a lapse of judgement, and some of us thru sheer bad luck. But if all of us look at ourselves honestly, I can guarantee that none of us has always made 'the right choices', so none of us has the right to say that someone else might not deserve healthcare, or in fact any care, because they did not make the right choices.

Yes Clay she has ACA and is saving.

Well Levicah, yes the US and not the World. Yes it's not Utopia. We still have insurance companies, pharmaceuticals, costly hospitals stays and procedures, not to mention people that work in healthcare so it will never be a utopia. You're right too, some people will have a hard time still affording affordable healthcare. Yes, some working class and small businesses as you say. Surely there are other problems. The rich are fine and the poorest get subsidies and other assistance for ACA or Medicaid respectively. At the same time, millions more have coverage that didn't. Millions more will obtain coverage at the next enrollment period too and so on. Things for your honest opinions and disagreements and for being respectful in disagreeing with me and not calling me an EHole. Hehe. For Ernie.

So all that considered, yes I think it is a vast improvement. I've also posted many times that it would be great to see the Republican leaders quit trying to scrap it as they have over 60 times now and actually make it better! Why don't they focus on the problems with it that people like you are referencing? I don't know. I know it will change though as ACA isn't going anywhere.

As for FOX News, I tune in from time to time to see what they're saying. Most of what I hear is that Obama is responsible for everything that is going poorly in our Country. Everything. They dislike (and often hate) everything about him, everything he's done and everything he tries to do. They will obstruct him or his policies at every turn, whether they're good or bad for the Country and pass on that message to their right-wing viewing audience. It's a political and fact blurring network packaged well with bells, whistles and strident hyperbole. It's basically editorial entertainment. The MSNBC network essentially did the same thing. I watch only little of either consequently. Anyway this is just my opinion. I'd love to see FOX call yo the GOP to make ACA better. Not holding my breath but I'll wait patiently.

As for the comment from the person on the other thread, that was handled well by the members. She hasn't seen anything yet. Wow we've had some interesting, divisive and contentious threads here before. This wouldn't even make the Top 20 since I've been here. Yes cherry pick for sure! I don't read most of the threads these days. They either don't interest me or I don't have the time.

Yes I do believe things are better though with healthcare but we have much work to do and a long say to go. We need the GOP to get on board and help make it great. Won't happen without them.

Damn I cannot write a short post sometimes.

Peace.

@captian
you got me wrong on my "poor choices", I'm talking about spending money on luxuries rather than insurance, not how you got hep C.

oh and Cap, I'm working on my weight

Mmm what happens when the wagons full? Then who's going to pull it. Peace

Well I hope many others will continue to pull it with me. We also need to train the others to learn how to pull and teach them some new tools and skills.

I'll keep pulling.
I have family members coming along behind me.
We spend enuff $$$ on all kinds of crapola, health care in this country should be a basic right like education. We are wealthy & we should take care of our own, our children, our vets, our nuturers of future generations (parents) and what about the poor young adult struggling like I did before I was blessed with education & a career?
You don't have to do anything, but I desire to give back what I've been given.

I only watch Norwegian news anymore. Fish and snow.

Love ya ernie!

Thanks Dad! Likewise.

TeleTubbies.
I loved to watch TeleTubbies at WORK in the late afternoon when we were done. Perfectly demonstrated our capacity at that time of day.

I had telatubby nightmares for years....control issues I think.

Having a little handle on top of your head for....nevermind.

A drink tray could be convenient too.

That aint right ernie! soooo wrong.

You started that. I know. Where's my delete button??