yo groupies, your dear friend is over here calling people cunts again. you should apologise for him hes just misunderstood. were waiting...

Well Cap Im not to fond of you calling all of us groupies on here. So if you want this drama to crash our friendship...so be it. An Mckenzie if this is happening then I am sorry for that, But if you saw my post the other night I pasted and copyed the entire message even who it was from what time who it was going to.... into the tread. Now seems to me like that would be in order here also. At least that way we can see for ourselfs who and what the perpatrader is saying.

cap, I can't really say since I wasn't around when rifle was causing problems to people, but the guy is really trying now, can't we give him a break? who are we to throw stones and judge? and I am not saying, maybe he changes again, but I am willing to give the guy the benefit of a doubt...
if that makes us groupies or responsible for what OTHER trolls do in your eyes then I am sorry for it... :((

I'm with Dream on this one............don't like to be called a groupie either, but I guess thats your choice:(

I believe the person you're talking about Capn is Goose................and I don't see anyone apologizing for him at this point.

Since most of the regular posters here now a days are pretty new to this site..........instead of calling them "groupies" , I think you should allow them to make their own decisions on who they communicate with. I think most of them are adults and can probably do that without any outside influence.

I didn't think that was you Mc...

Don't know too much about most this crap, but if Cap says this person was using THAT lanuage, come on no need for that under any condition, maybe some of these people need other support groups rather than this one, like anger issue groups, social awareness, they don't seem to be giving much support or asking a specific question as to anything they may be going through where they would need OUR support.
Throw them out, keep them out. Let them start their own support group, they contribute nothing to this one,,,

Wait a minute guys whats being talked about here is that...... that was not rifle. What goose is doing guys is pretending to be Rifle. Bout an hour ago goose was on here as (Riffleman 420) and that was..... I am almost certain goose that sent Mckenzie that message as well. Thats why I said she should copy and paste so All of us could see this. Goose is as you could imagine vary angry because we have let Rifle back in here. The old Green Devil Joyousy. That is my opion anyways for what it's worth.

My Northern Star McKenzie. You have been the Rock Solid Foundation of the Hep/C community for over 3yrs that I have known you. I may not sign into DS that much anymore, But we still have our phone conversations. You will always have my Love and Respects !

love you mac.

i saw that petition but it didn't say who it was for so i didn't sign it. and i still don't know who it was for?

And Tatt dont know if you relize this but I was talking to goose the other day who was passing himself off as Mckenzie. I said nothing bad about the real mckenzie and never would. And earlier today I was saying that maybe goose was making the real mckenzie think he was rifleman. I mean any of us can be fooled i believe. And i will say again what i said in another post tonight. I am aware of people think I should keep my mouth shut because I have not been here as long as most. I seem to be hearing that more and mlore lately. Well I think I do keep my mouth shut actually when I need to. And thats me.

I am certain that was not rifleman doing the hate posts. Goose had several usernames and copies peoples avatars to make you think it is someone else. Rifle wasn't even on during the time.
Dreamkite is 100% correct. Goose is pissed because Rifle is being cool now and we are being forgiving enough to afford him a second chance. In fact, goose had my avatar and 2 usernames similar to mine going at the same time. Then he added others. He had them made in advance of the attack. Believe what you want to, but I have personally seen this type of attack for years, and I was on when it happened. I tried to make you all see what was happening, but you believe what you want to believe, not necessarily what the truth is. So, Here is the bottom line. You are letting Goose succeed in him endeavor, and is splitting the group in the process. It's like a war to him, divide and conquer. Well, he had divided you, and made you form false opinions about what really happened. He is very good at that, he's been practicing for years.
You can say form other groups, but do you think he can create chaos on his personal group? No, Hell no. He is pissed at the HCV group. It goes back almost three years to when I and another member played him for a fool and gained his personal info and splattered it at the bottom of every post for over a week. Then, another member from Texas got a relative with Police contacts to pay him a visit. He blames me for the Police incident, which I didn't do, but I was in on the way we used him and played him for a fool by gaining his personal info. Why do you think most of his attacks are either nutron or nuetron or 1nutron or 1nuetron? He will not let it go, and by dragging others into it he just makes it worse, and everyone believes it is someone else.
Look, he doesn't fool me. You believe what you want, but if you buy into his shit, you let him win. As a group, we should stand together. Otherwise you should leave, cause he will keep coming back.

Thanks, McK.
No one stated who "this person" was supposed to be, I asked. Many have been banned from DS.
Supposedly rifle came on thru someone else with a msg for me, but not TO me.
It didn't sound like any kind of an apology for the names he's called me or things he said about me on the main board (if it was him), so I do not see any change.
Here's a quote from the msg: "but to be honest I don't like you and never will. "
No body has to like anyone on here, DS just asks "to be nice".
Either way, I see no apology in those words. Therefore, I see no change.
It doesn't matter to me who is or isn't a member. There are plenty of HCV support groups.
You have done an outstanding job as CL despite shoveling the tide, LOL.
Peace & good health to all.

I agree that we couldn't have a better community leader.

As far as a support group, this is more of a dysfunctional social group. Everyone has their group they belong to, no one really shows respect for each other. It's no wonder we leave.

Honestly, the only reason I came back was for a few friends. If I were to get banned, I wouldn't care in the slightest. There is way too much drama here, and I have a great "real" life.

I tend to like other support groups better. And the WHA. They are good organizations. They are productive and inspiring, and all the things this group lacks. Plus I enjoy being active in organizing "real" Support groups that are actually tangible.

All of my good friends from here left a long time ago, or died, or were not really good friends anyway. I think my true friends know who they are.

I hope everyone clears the virus. I am committed to finding treatment and a cure for the hepatitis C virus for everyone.

if he gets zapped, think these people will want to read this response, '" This post has a point.

I joined DS April of 08 after lurking for awhile. I felt bad for Goose because almost everyone was attacking him. I allied myself with Goose in the Spring of 08 during " Goose/Tatman war."

Made a few enemies and even more friends. Then in May of 2009 I was suspended from DS for 20 days. I deserved it w/o a doubt. While being suspended I re thought my friendship with Goose and when I came back I declared war on Goose.

That was a crazy time on DS. I was battling Bear, Marty, Neutron and others. But my main fight was with Goose. Goose is the best I've ever met at this troll shit. He was beating me down.

Now here is my point, told you I had one. So I had been suspended and knew a ban was next. Then Goose came on the main and called Mac the C word. Well I went the fuck off on the main. My target was Goose. I even messaged and phone Mac. I asked her to not let me get banned for fighting for her.

Now flash to the present, Mac wants to remove her name from Rifleman's petition. That hurts Mac, we have talked on the phone. I have never disrespected you. So you wanna bail on me. That's cool, good luck to you. " '

just copy pasted the answer...

somehow have a feeling people are mixing the two... and Mac said she had received a lot of hate mail... believe she is talking about goose...and now i will shut up and keep out of it all :)) had to say this :))

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