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Benson4535
So here we go again...
My girlfriend and I got into a bit of a tiff earlier tonight. Now the last little while has been pretty good. We spent more time together, we even went out on a double date with our close friends on Monday. It was a fun night and she said she had an amazing time.
The last couple of weeks she's seen a bit withdrawn physically though. Even before the fight about her brother, it seems if I want to kiss her, I have to force it. Definitely not something i want. Same with sex. We used to be very active, and we had agreed we were both sexual people. I've known for along time. Well the last little bit it feels like she doesn't want me to touch her unless i'm rubbing her back or her feet, occasionally she wants to cuddle...I'm kinda letting this settle, hoping maybe after awhile she'll get back to how it was.
Our tiff today was about my phone. I don't spend alot of time on my phone, in fact she texts so often it gets annoying. We'll be having a nice conversation or cuddling in bed, it'll go off and she'll answer it right away. I've kinda grown to live with it. Well about a month and a half ago, i apparently brought up some issues she had been discussing with afriend over text messages and she instantly thought I had gone through her phone. I don't ever touch her phone becuase that's her personal device and i would hate to come across a message about someone i know where they confided something in her and now I know cause I was snooping. I know I'd hate that if it was me. So we had agreed to leave each others phones alone. Well she stole mine right out of my hand today. At first I didn't mind, it was a joke, she changed my facebook status...but then she started going through my facebook, then my text messages until she came across a message i had sent to a friend of mine about a conversation we were having about why I had been interested in a woman a few years ago. She read it out loud to her roommates (who are friends of mine) and this is it exactly "I thought she was cute at the time, but then she starved herself to pretty much a skeleton. I think she needs help." So to say i was a bit angry would sum it up right. But I didn't make it vocal, I decided to let it pass. Well my best friend and i share a connection where we can feel what each other is feeling. It's why we're so close. She messaged me and asked what was wrong. I explained what happened. Well right after i sent the text my phone is snatched out of my hand again and she reads the text. So she got frustrated that I would tell my friend but not bring it up to her. In all honesty i was trying to avoid a fight cause it really wasn't too big of a deal, but she antagonized it. So after we were done with the mini fight. Everything seemed fine, but tonight while she was at work she messaged me and asked if i felt the same way as when we got back together. In honesty, I feel relationships do change, but at the end of the day the good times i have with her still outweigh the bads and so i said i do still feel the same. I'm still in love with her and trying to make it all work and want to be with her. She said she didn't feel the same. That she's happy with me, but doesn't feel the same way. So she started this conversation and i went into her work and asked "What do you feel has changed?" and she responded with "Don't interogate me, especially not at work. Why are we talking about this now?" I said "You brought it up, I asked you one question, but if you want to talk about it later then we can"...So we agreed to talk later, but I still don't know what exactly to think of all this.
My girlfriend and I got into a bit of a tiff earlier tonight. Now the last little while has been pretty good. We spent more time together, we even went out on a double date with our close friends on Monday. It was a fun night and she said she had an amazing time.
The last couple of weeks she's seen a bit withdrawn physically though. Even before the fight about her brother, it seems if I want to kiss her, I have to force it. Definitely not something i want. Same with sex. We used to be very active, and we had agreed we were both sexual people. I've known for along time. Well the last little bit it feels like she doesn't want me to touch her unless i'm rubbing her back or her feet, occasionally she wants to cuddle...I'm kinda letting this settle, hoping maybe after awhile she'll get back to how it was.
Our tiff today was about my phone. I don't spend alot of time on my phone, in fact she texts so often it gets annoying. We'll be having a nice conversation or cuddling in bed, it'll go off and she'll answer it right away. I've kinda grown to live with it. Well about a month and a half ago, i apparently brought up some issues she had been discussing with afriend over text messages and she instantly thought I had gone through her phone. I don't ever touch her phone becuase that's her personal device and i would hate to come across a message about someone i know where they confided something in her and now I know cause I was snooping. I know I'd hate that if it was me. So we had agreed to leave each others phones alone. Well she stole mine right out of my hand today. At first I didn't mind, it was a joke, she changed my facebook status...but then she started going through my facebook, then my text messages until she came across a message i had sent to a friend of mine about a conversation we were having about why I had been interested in a woman a few years ago. She read it out loud to her roommates (who are friends of mine) and this is it exactly "I thought she was cute at the time, but then she starved herself to pretty much a skeleton. I think she needs help." So to say i was a bit angry would sum it up right. But I didn't make it vocal, I decided to let it pass. Well my best friend and i share a connection where we can feel what each other is feeling. It's why we're so close. She messaged me and asked what was wrong. I explained what happened. Well right after i sent the text my phone is snatched out of my hand again and she reads the text. So she got frustrated that I would tell my friend but not bring it up to her. In all honesty i was trying to avoid a fight cause it really wasn't too big of a deal, but she antagonized it. So after we were done with the mini fight. Everything seemed fine, but tonight while she was at work she messaged me and asked if i felt the same way as when we got back together. In honesty, I feel relationships do change, but at the end of the day the good times i have with her still outweigh the bads and so i said i do still feel the same. I'm still in love with her and trying to make it all work and want to be with her. She said she didn't feel the same. That she's happy with me, but doesn't feel the same way. So she started this conversation and i went into her work and asked "What do you feel has changed?" and she responded with "Don't interogate me, especially not at work. Why are we talking about this now?" I said "You brought it up, I asked you one question, but if you want to talk about it later then we can"...So we agreed to talk later, but I still don't know what exactly to think of all this.
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