LOL----I love it. YAK YAK YAK....right. My daughter does the none stop thing too...except when she is looking for me to give her something....money,food,a place to live.

We have to take the good with the bad. I had asked my gs's other set of gp's to take him 2 weekends in a row. Last week end I was trying to work on my car and have a nervous breakdown. This weekend was my oldest daughters bday, she turned 25, and I wanted to go out to dinner with her family and her two brothers. I also wanted to take my youngest son who helps with the gs to the movies and just do something with him b/c he never gets to go or do anything anymore that doesn't include a baby.

So I am grateful that they took him but feel guilty that I need time away. I can relate to the getting up before the house does to have the cup a joe b/4 the "noise" starts. So I completely understand your happy that she is there but......SHE'S DRIVING YA CRAZY!!!

Enjoy what time with your husband that you can and try to ignore all the rest.

And the WORST part of it all is that she talks nonstop with the worst Philly accent you've ever heard! (Being from DE you'll understand LOL)

"Sit daaaaln!"

"I need to take a shaaaawer!"

Will youse kids behave? Akay? Akay? Akay?

LOL I grew up in SW Philly. My son was raised in Maryland...but we were talking yesterday about a soldering iron---- He says when I say it I sound like I am saying a T instead of a D

My other kids also comment on my pronunciation of

WATER ------ WADER
Dollar---- Dawler

I just keep saying it to them and they just shake their heads at me.
I also have to laugh everytime I read "Pinky" my daughter dyed her hair Magenta and then stated tell people that was her name. People would call out house and ask for Magenta....I was like you have the wrong number....But she also dress's in pink ALOT!!!!

Enjoy you "non responsibly time" while you have it.

Jeanie, a "Bal'imore" accent may trump Philly -- I haven't decided yet. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

As Pinky keeps telling her dad, "Im your dorter!"

And just to make me that little bit crazier, our middle granddaughter just told Pinky "you're the best Mommy in the whole world!"

I can't wait for 6:00 when she leaves.

As much as I would like to be positive and say "enjoy the couple time while you can" I have waited for the other shoe to drop to many times to take things on faith. My youngest had a thing for something that made her hyper that she bought on the streets. She used it when she came to visit us because she would be unable to smoke weed undetected. (mother was a child of the 70's and not as gullible as her grandparents). She would get up early and clean house (never cleaned anything when she lived here), take care of her nieces and nephews and just run around like crazy till it was time to go home. She was exhausting and to watch. I guess I am saying to be cautious.

Interesting, Lizzie, because Pinky does still smoke pot. She admits that. And she said something about not taking Suboxone when she comes to visit because it makes her sleepy.

Hmmmmmmm. So IMHO either she doesn't need the Suboxone, because she goes from Thursday to Sunday evening without it, or she IS taking something else to get through the visits.

My husband is SO much better at detecting it than I am. He continues to say she's high, and I keep saying I don't think so, but he has always been right in the past....and it is his "dorter," not mine...

How about Starbucks for a cup of "cawfee" in peace?

HAHAHA -- cawfee and a daonut. :-)

Bipolar illness can cause this. It could be that she really isn't doing drugs, but is "suffering" from hypomania (not full-blown mania). No actual hard and fast medical test for this so hard to tell. If your dh is convinced she's still using, why not request her to do some drug testing when she comes to visit?

Just something to consider.

From what I understand, Suboxone would show up, and the home tests aren't sophisticated enough to tell us if she's doing something else. The only thing she'll admit to is "occasional" pot, which is probably BS, since she could be doing it all week long and we wouldn't know.

She leaves me totally exhausted. Then the kids have started crying when she leaves, which really ticks me off because now I feel even more like the babysitter.

Your feelings do get so complicated, don't they?

Oh, Sara, I truly feel sorry for you! Aren't you sick and tired of her being in your home EVERY weekend??? I don't think it would be worth the "break", especially under the circumstances you describe!! Do you ever get to look at her arms for track marks?? My GS's mom has track marks on her hands. Does she have dirty fingernails? That's also a sign. Are her pupils tiny like pinpoints when she's yapping away like that? Does she seem itchy? My son and his GF would stay up all night when they were high on heroin and that was when they would actually clean or do something around the house - although it was VERY rarely even though they were high most of the time. They would stay up all night making noise, though, when they were using, because they had so much energy. Drove me NUTS. Do you check her room when she leaves? Ever see foil or black bottomed spoons or tiny pieces of cotton laying around or tiny pieces of baggies? If your husband thinks she's using again; she probably is. Generally, when we get "that" feeling; we're right. It's way too convenient for her to say, "Oh, I would drop a urine test for you, but it's going to test positive because of the suboxone." Sounds fishy to me. And I can completely relate to how upsetting it is when they leave and the kids cry. My GS does that & he's only 3, so it breaks my heart.

Sara, I have a friend who was in a car accident and was taking pain medication for 2 yrs. She wanted to quit taking the meds and try to deal with the pain with other options. She knows that I am a good researcher and needed my help to find out info on Suboxone...

She went to a rehab place and they gave her Suboxone. We looked up suboxone. This stuff is worse then pain meds the way I understand it. Unless you wean off the suboxone within 3 wks is what this one Rehab Dr online said.

But what I read was if you take suboxone it will trump all other drugs....so if Pinky would do drugs she would never feel it because this suboxone stops all other drugs from working. If fact, she said that they gave her a card to keep in her wallet that in case she is in an accident and needs surgery she has to tell the Dr's that she was on the Suboxone because the meds for surgery won't work!! Read up on this stuff....I read from this one Re-Hab Dr online that you have to wean off of this suboxone within 3wks because it is harder to stop using than Heroin or Medadone. This Dr said under the right care they can wean off this too and then have a better life.

I understand for some people it is better then stealing or what ever to pay for drugs this stuff can save them from that kind of life...they are only trading one thing for a far worse thing in my opinion.

My 2 cents....

Judi

The kids never cried before when she left - this is all new. It's the eldest girl who's 11!!!

She keeps telling them that she's going to get married and buy a house close to us, get a car, take them to live with her, etc. etc. And she does it where I don't hear it -- so now it's far too late for "damage control."

The kids all want to move in with her and the "balance of power" is changing. I'm nothing more than a babysitter now. I'm not even a grandmother, because I'm still raising them, but I'm no longer their mother, either. I admit it makes me jealous and resentful, but there's nothing I can do. I can't prohibit Pinky from coming down because she hasn't really done anything "wrong."

If she's using it won't be shooting up. It would definitely be some sort of pill, and they're so easy to hide or disguise. We haven't met the boyfriend yet. Mostly because this is about the 20th guy she's been "in love with" and planning to marry. If she's telling the truth, he sounds nice -- which makes us both wonder what he's doing with her.

I guess time will tell...

I'm so sorry you are going through this. I wish things could have just stayed the way they were, but that seems to be the one thing we can count on. Things never go along smoothly. We can surely count on that...... :P