I really don't believe in this theory regarding FMS! For many years it has been really hard for the medical community to believe our pain is real because a doctor has nothing to point there finger at like a cancer gene or a broken arm! Yes, it is true anyone can get sick from allot of different variables, but just because the medical community has such a hard time believing something they can't see, doesn't mean they have to FIND something to point at! There are things that make more sense regarding FMS! Like the theory that FMS is related to a brain chemical imbalance! Meaning that we with FMS might very well have a lack of healing chemicals in our brain that fights off disease! Vitamin supplement therapy has been reported to be very beneficial in restoring and balancing the lack of healing brain chemicals us with FMS so lack! There is a wonderful article about this subject that I will find for you all and post it up here!

There are many different people at many different progressions of this disease! So another point is to do what would help you specifically! Everyone is different!

The point is not to go "why why why is this happening? There has to be something I can point to, to explain this!" Some things just are the way they are and the bigger picture of it all is to be able to find how we can deal with the symptoms we are going through now!

Just my opinion on the matter!

Take care,
Stay sane!

You have a point....there may never be a specific "point" but this is something to consider as one man hade been ill for 15 yrs and FINALLY it was discovered he was infested with parasitic worms. Further, most people who eat fish, even well cooked, will have liver flukes which can really wreak havoc. Sometimes there are no "symptoms" but a good parasitic treatment can't hurt. We worm our pets every 6 months, why not ourselves?

Good Point

Animal Flea Remedies also
work wonders on KID Lice!!

What about H Plyori sp? the bacteria that causes ulcers? It was found in my stomach in the beginning of my illness. The funny thing is my whole family caught a stomache virus only I never got over it. I threw up for months ...lost 30 lbs in 6 weeks. The pain was unbearable. But maybe I didn't have whatever it took to fight this off. Maybe we are missing a antibody or something to that effect. Especially since our immune system is in our digestive tract. And think about how many of us have IBS and other digestive issues. Just a thought....

EXACTLY! WAL-Mart has a parasite de-tox thingy in the laxative section for 19.95 and at this point, why not? I mean, honestly, I felt better when I went thru the prep for the colonoscopy as it "cleaned" me out. But to rid yourself of parasites since they lay eggs repeaptedly, you are to treat yourself the 1st time for 90 days straight then every 6 months after that just 1x.

Wow! That is so interesting! I didn't even realize that! Thankyou so much hun!

MOM3 - yep, think about it....like some alien life hiding and destroying without us knowing. GAG

FMS deals with how our bodies can't process sickness! Meaning our bodies immune systems and healing chemicals are out of whack! That's why we with FMS tend to have this immune and chemical imbalance (lying dormant) and when we get sick or have any trauma for ANY reason our bodies tend to hold on to that or when we feel pain or tiredness it's tenfold of any healthy individual! It's not the thing we get sick from, it's the fact our bodies can't heal properly from getting sick, etc.! That's the nature of this specific disease!

I am quite sure anyone can get sick for a number of reasons! I'm not debating that fact in the least! I'm just saying that FMS deals with the fact of how our bodies hold onto sickness and can't get over illness easy and feel pain and such at a higher level then others without this disease! People can have parasites sure! As my aunt that's a nurse says, anything is possible! But Parasites do not cause FMS! That's not logical when FMS deals with the way one doesn't process pain and illness in the way a healthy persons body does!

Like I said, I'm not disputing the fact that anyone can get sick from a number of things! But FMS isn't a thing...it's the process in ones body of how our bodies can't heal from illness and pain the way a healthy person would!

Take care,
Stay sane!

Here is the article from Dr. Murphree who spent over 10yrs. devoted soley to the study of FMS! He does a wonderful job of explaining, in a way that makes allot of sense, the link to FMS and brain chemical imbalances!

http://www.drmurphreestore.com/newsletters_letters/arefmspatcrazy.html

Take care,
Stay sane!

Well I'll be... Low Seratonin levels lead to Fibro. Thanks Blue Mist for the link and FIC for the original one.

I have never made enough Seratonin and in that article I have so many of the symptoms of low Seratonin levels.

I am going to try the 5HTP and B Suppliments. It can't hurt and may help. My pain has increased over time and I would try just about anything, within reason to get a handle on my pain.

Thanks for the articles! Keleee :)

I agree with BlueMist I take 5htp and B12 every day and I haven't noticed much of a difference yet....But I haven't gotten worse either. Thats fine with me. I firmly believe that I developed FM/CF from all that infection I had. If it was caused by a paracite I think it would have been discovered by now. Of course anyone would feel better after being cleaned out by a laxitive. Thats just the way it works and believe me I've had enough prep of my bowel for surgery to know. When I had a colostomy bag I felt much better than I do now. Clensing of your system is a good thing except when done to much. If you do it too often you can cause nerve damage to your muscles and lining causing you to not be able to push or feel anything. Before trying this you should consult your DR.

Hmmm, well, people with parasites do indeed get sick, but whether they develop fibro as a result of it sounds dubious to me.
we worm our pets because they may have a tendency to eat dead animals or get into feces in the grass. i hope people do not.
I also take exception to the statement that most people who eat fish have liver flukes. i would lke to see some research to back that up.
Sorry if I come off as growly or mad - i'm not. I just a s skeptical of people who have all the answers. I am so tired of people taking advantage of us - trying to sell us some snake oil - they should be ashamed of themselves!

I just remember feeling "better" so to speak when I took a tablespoon of Mineral Oil daily because of the side effects of the other meds. GAG it was nasty and it did cause other issues but I "wonder" if the fact that the oil may have caused the "parasite" the inability to attach/recv nutrients, etc. was the reason? Not sure......

This Dr. Valerie Something-or-other was the one talking about Asians who eat alot of sushi/fish were upon autopsy had greater % of liver flukes.

BlueMist, you're pretty knowledgeable about FM. Have you been sick with it long? Research has proven that FM is not arthritis, nor is it an autoimmune disease. Our pain stems from a part of the brain called the thalamus region. Here's a link to another good article: http://tinyurl.com/2afwxn

Not to sound rude in the least, but sushi is raw, cooked food isn't! Anything raw could have more negative things in it because there is way less of the cleansing process involved in preparing meat to cook and actually cooking something to a really high degree which in turn is known to kill germs and the like with the high temperatures!

Anyone who eats allot of raw sushi could have the possibility of getting sick from things that might be inside the sushi! But that really says nothing of cooked foods that are prepared more fully at extreme temperatures!

Take care,
Stay sane!