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anyone every read the book "1984"?
there are over 1000 pages in this bill. here are some summed up for you. and if you have medicare (like me) we will be SCREWED! but this "REFORM" effects EVERYONE.....
Page 16: States that if you have insurance at the time of the bill becoming law and change, you will be required to take a similar plan. If that is not available, you will be required to take the gov option!
Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)
Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
Page 58: Ever y person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (example: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.
Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)
Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens
Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No "judicial review" is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.
Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll BR
Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll
Page 167: Any individual who doesn't have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.
Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." Yes, it really says that.
Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected."
Page 241: Doctors: no matter what speciality you have, you'll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)
Page 253: Government sets value of doctors' time, their professional judgment, etc.
Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!
Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.
Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.
Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited from owning and investing in healthcare companies!
Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.
Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on "community" input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.
Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., ration ing.
Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.
Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.
Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).
Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?
Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.
Page 425: Goverment provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as pa tient's health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.
Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.
Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.
Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.
Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage.
Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services
there are over 1000 pages in this bill. here are some summed up for you. and if you have medicare (like me) we will be SCREWED! but this "REFORM" effects EVERYONE.....
Page 16: States that if you have insurance at the time of the bill becoming law and change, you will be required to take a similar plan. If that is not available, you will be required to take the gov option!
Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)
Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
Page 58: Ever y person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (example: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.
Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)
Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens
Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No "judicial review" is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.
Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll BR
Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll
Page 167: Any individual who doesn't have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.
Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." Yes, it really says that.
Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected."
Page 241: Doctors: no matter what speciality you have, you'll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)
Page 253: Government sets value of doctors' time, their professional judgment, etc.
Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!
Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.
Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.
Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited from owning and investing in healthcare companies!
Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.
Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on "community" input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.
Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., ration ing.
Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.
Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.
Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).
Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?
Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.
Page 425: Goverment provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as pa tient's health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.
Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.
Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.
Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.
Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage.
Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services
Have you read Steinbeck's, The Grapes of Wrath? It's a fairly accurate historical picture of one family's experience when Oklahoma sharecroppers were turned out of their homes by the thousands. It was almost like this sector of Americans were just thrown away.
In California, they've already started to deny health benefits to the poorest. If you can't afford to be sick, you may as well do Arnold a favor and just die on the side of the road, like poor old Grandpa and Grandma Joad.
And don't even get me started about how Vietnam vets get treated - if they've managed to survive this long.
The government has never done anything well so what makes anyone think they can do health care well.
What would take medical costs down is to stop people from sueing hospital, doctors and insurance companies for millions. Dr.'s pay around a million dollars in insurance each year for malpractice insurance. Hospitals pay even more outrageous fees so they can pay all the crazy lawsuits.
Lawsuits should be just for out of pocket costs to the person and a small fee perhaps. We need a cap on lawsuits to bring the cost of mecial services down.
This in today's High Desert Press Dispatch (my local paper.)
DRUGMAKERS READY TO SPEND $150M PUSHING OBAMA'S HEALTH-CARE PLAN
BY DAVID ESPO
AP SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT
WASHINGTON
The nations drugmakers stand ready to spend $150 million to help President Barack Obama overhaul health care this fall, according to numerous officials, a staggering sum that could dwarf attempts to derail his chief domestic priority.
The campaign, now in its early stages, includes television advertising under PhRMAs own name and commercials aired in conjunction with the liberal group, Families USA.
Numerous people with knowledge of PhRMAs plans said they had been told it would likely reach $150 million and perhaps $200 million. They spoke on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to divulge details.
Additionally, the industry is the major contributor to Healthy Economy Now, which recently completed a $12 million round of advertising nationally and in several states. The ads were made by companies with close ties to Democrats and the White House, and generally reflected the administrations changing rhetoric on health care.
In an interview, Ken Johnson, senior vice president of PhRMA, said, We will have a significant presence over the August recess, both on television and newspapers and on radio, but we have not finalized details for our fall campaign.
Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA, said the partnership with the deep-pocketed drug industry is one of mutual self-interest, even though the two groups disagree on numerous issues. We want to achieve coverage for everyone. For PhRMA, this would improve volume for prescription sales because everyone would have better access to medicine, he said.
Any health care bill that makes it to Obamas desk is expected to extend health insurance to the nearly 50 million who now lack it. That would mean a huge new pool of potential customers for drug companies and other health care providers. That, in turn, has created an incentive to offer concessions to the White House and lawmakers in hopes of shaping the bill, rather than simply opposing it.
D r u g m a ke rs we re the first group to reach ag re e m e n t w i t h t h e White House and Senate Fi n a n ce C o m m i t t e e Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., announcing several weeks ago that they would absorb $80 billion in costs over a decade.
E ve n b e fo re t h e announcement, according to several individuals, the White House sought help from PhRMA in passing legislation.
Now, with the legislation under attack, the industry is providing key support during August as Republicans work to inflict a high-profile defeat on the president.
A significantly more a m b i t i o u s ad ve r t i s - ing effort by PhRMA is expected to begin around Labor Day.
Jim Messina, a deputy White House chief of staff who is deeply involved in the administrations h e a l t h c a re e f fo r t , brought Democratic senators up to date recently on the help PhRMA, labor unions and other outside groups are providing.
This socialized health care bill sucks and it will be "we the people" who suffer the most. I do not like this "change".
Persons in my age group will be passed over for major medical care and allowed to pass on without medical attention. How sad that our greatest resource will be allowed to expire without medical attention merely because we're too old for the government to worry about.
No wonder alternative medicines are up in the USA, people are taking matters into their own hands and doing what they can to get well and stay well. I'm one of those people and I know they're are others here who are doing the same.
I attend TEA Parties when they're in my area. Please do something positive before we lose what we do have to socialism.
It sounds so ridiculous, we have drug industry, insurance industry, politics and lawyers determining how health care should be. Very little 'health care' is deemed for those who have studied medicine.
Maybe I should consult with a voodoo practitioner. I don't think they have any restrictions yet?
America the land of the free is about to become "land of the fascism"
i wouldn't be surprised if they started BAR-CODING us!!!!
DDDnTN, can you also quote where your information comes from?
Re: "We send free and wholesale medicines to Mexico, Canada and other countries whose citizens don't get raped at the pharmacy like we do."
I also know that the medications you can find at your local farm co-op is the very same thing you purchase for personal use minus the fancy packaging and advertisements. It's manufactured the same as what you get from the pharmacy but with a disclaimer that it isn't FDA tested or approved. That's just another way of controlling the general population, getting them to buy into their BS and feed the pharmaceutical companies. Hey, pets get sick too and their meds are the same as yours.
I've been without medical insurance, lived in the backwoods. I learned real quick to treat me and my family with medications I could easily get my hands on at the co-op. I was also lucky enough to have a RN for a friend who gave me a LOT of information we're not supposed to know. I took care of my family for over five years like that and we did just fine.
PS. The farm pharmaceuticals are also stamped "Not for human consumption". But, as in all medicines, they're all manufactured on the same equipment as human medications. Has anyone ever heard of a critter pharmaceutical company??
We're fed entirely too much BS and far too many people believe it. I'm a Rebel to the bone and I question almost everything, especially IF it comes from the government and big pharmas.
Bar coding - chuckle. But really, isn't that what our SSN numbers are. The illegal immigrants are the ones who go unnoticed but they get free health care. But on the flip side, they should be vaccinated and have a check up before entering this country. Give us your poor and tired but keep the contageous home.