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What do you think?
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2016/05/24/for-some-prisoners-finishing-their-sentences-doesn-t-mean-they-get-out#.3tWEf0zpJ
And on a very Personal Note: After my husband served 2 years on a parole violation (off a 30 year old rape conviction and never another crime of any kind in the 40 years since) However he spent another year in prison in Nevada AFTER he was 'granted' parole because I kept trying for a parole plan in Oregon (where we owned a house and I lived) Anyway he stayed in prison while I tried to get a plan together without having to give up my house and my job and my life... In the meantime, with a parole, the Parole Department proceeded to assign a sex offender tier level (which makes putting together a re-entry plan even more restrictive) So he was assigned a tier 3 which was wrong but if he wanted to fight his tier assignment he was required to be in prison to fight the assigned tier level and since he was only 'allowed to stay in prison (trying to get an approved parole plan together) for 1 year after being 'granted' parole in the first place or the parole is automatically rescinded (for no other reason than that you can't get an approved parole plan together due to the unfair tier assignment) so...
I gave up our house, quit my job and moved to NV and found another job just to get him out before the 365 day deadline cut off hope of re-entry...and with the tier level restrictions the only place where they would allow him to release to (and us to live) was in a Residency Hotel in downtown Reno (also offering places for poor families with youngsters to live) The Hotel is called the Ponderosa (We lived on the 6th floor for two years) The first floor has a titty bar called the Wild Orchid" Also on the first floor is the Ponderosa's lobbly which sells 'beer wine and liquor"and every day we rode up and down in the elevator with 'working girls' offering dates watched over by pimps selling drugs. But the Ponderosa IS convenient for Parole Officers to invade en mass once a month because evey one is so conveniently lumped together in one hotel (sort of like living under a bridge but high up in the air... But then NV is one of 19 states in full compliance with the Adam Walsh Act and able to get additional $$$ grant monies to protect and serve the 'community"
(by the way, Lovelock is the prison in NV not officially the Sex Offender prison but then NV does not officially have Civil Commitment either. So who knew? Nobody said a catch 22 had to make sense or be fair did they? Just as long just as Tough on Crime builds prisons, keeps 'them' there and gets politicians elected we all just keep on keeping on...hoping and trying
So What do you think about the 'fairness of a system shifting over from imprisoning durggies and blacks to sex offenders as the safe bet to keep their jobs and their business model profitable into the future?
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2016/05/24/for-some-prisoners-finishing-their-sentences-doesn-t-mean-they-get-out#.3tWEf0zpJ
And on a very Personal Note: After my husband served 2 years on a parole violation (off a 30 year old rape conviction and never another crime of any kind in the 40 years since) However he spent another year in prison in Nevada AFTER he was 'granted' parole because I kept trying for a parole plan in Oregon (where we owned a house and I lived) Anyway he stayed in prison while I tried to get a plan together without having to give up my house and my job and my life... In the meantime, with a parole, the Parole Department proceeded to assign a sex offender tier level (which makes putting together a re-entry plan even more restrictive) So he was assigned a tier 3 which was wrong but if he wanted to fight his tier assignment he was required to be in prison to fight the assigned tier level and since he was only 'allowed to stay in prison (trying to get an approved parole plan together) for 1 year after being 'granted' parole in the first place or the parole is automatically rescinded (for no other reason than that you can't get an approved parole plan together due to the unfair tier assignment) so...
I gave up our house, quit my job and moved to NV and found another job just to get him out before the 365 day deadline cut off hope of re-entry...and with the tier level restrictions the only place where they would allow him to release to (and us to live) was in a Residency Hotel in downtown Reno (also offering places for poor families with youngsters to live) The Hotel is called the Ponderosa (We lived on the 6th floor for two years) The first floor has a titty bar called the Wild Orchid" Also on the first floor is the Ponderosa's lobbly which sells 'beer wine and liquor"and every day we rode up and down in the elevator with 'working girls' offering dates watched over by pimps selling drugs. But the Ponderosa IS convenient for Parole Officers to invade en mass once a month because evey one is so conveniently lumped together in one hotel (sort of like living under a bridge but high up in the air... But then NV is one of 19 states in full compliance with the Adam Walsh Act and able to get additional $$$ grant monies to protect and serve the 'community"
(by the way, Lovelock is the prison in NV not officially the Sex Offender prison but then NV does not officially have Civil Commitment either. So who knew? Nobody said a catch 22 had to make sense or be fair did they? Just as long just as Tough on Crime builds prisons, keeps 'them' there and gets politicians elected we all just keep on keeping on...hoping and trying
So What do you think about the 'fairness of a system shifting over from imprisoning durggies and blacks to sex offenders as the safe bet to keep their jobs and their business model profitable into the future?
You asked, "So What do you think about the 'fairness of a system shifting over from imprisoning durggies and blacks to sex offenders as the safe bet to keep their jobs and their business model profitable into the future?"
They have just switched gears from the War on Drugs to the War on Sex Offenders. I have maintaned this for years. Same principle, different "war."
After reading this article, sex offenders on probation or parole should take heed-----DO NOT DO ANYTHING THAT MIGHT CAUSE A PROBATION OR PAROLE VIOLATION. Do whatever you have to do to stay on the good side of the PO, even if you have to kiss *ss once in a while.
Once the government gets a probationer back in physical custody after a probation violation, it does not want to release them regardless of the length of their sentence.
Getting a probation violation just give the government an excuse to not only keep you locked up for an indeterminate length of time, but to also label the probationer as a trouble maker who cannot follow the rules.
The other point is that, in my opinion, the next big push for sex offender rights will be in the area of civil commitment and any situation in which the government attempts to keep an offender after his court mandated sentence has expired.
The government---and THE GENERAL PUBLIC----would like nothing better than to lock sex offenders up for eternity. Let's not give them an excuse or a chance to place us in a perpetual state of incarceration.
We may ultimately win the legal battles in these situations, but until that happens, the probationer is still locked up and away from society.
In most instances I have long maintained that it is very difficult to fight the criminal justice system or the prison system without a protracted court fight. The government has far too many resources and the public will on its side. I work with a lot of prison inmates, and I always tell inmates that unless there is an obvious violation of civil rights, they have to more or less take what the system will allow.
Some probationers and inmates push the envelope to see how much they can get away with. Some do it out of anger at the government or just spite.
Probationers who are "envelope pushers" usually wind up back in prison. Inmates who decide to play the envelope pushing game usually wind up at a higher security facility with a loss of most of their good time credits.
Playing games and allowing the state to give you a probation violation allows them to win and to ultimately make your life---and that of your loved ones---miserable.
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