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SOSEN- Community notification of the Looters of so
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http://sosen.org/2014/02/13/community-notification-of-the-looters-of-society.html
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Community notification of the Looters of society
by Robert Wolf • February 13, 2014 • 0 Comments
Dont Tread on meThis information is going to be a bit hard-core. In a recent blog talk radio show titled Viva La Revolution on Activist Central http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ActivistCentral the narrator put forth the point that the government has made war upon registered citizens, their parents, spouses, siblings and children as well as their employers and friends. As pointed out perhaps we should consider ourselves the resistance fighters in that war and not just fight it at an intellectual level, trying quietly to present the overwhelming mountain of evidence that shows that 99% of the people on the registry will not reoffend and that over 99% of all new sex crimes are committed by people that are not on the registry and that there is an extreme collateral damage, not only to the registered citizens but also to everyone that is associated with them. This quiet action has not got us very far in that new laws continue to be created, more restrictive and devastating than those before. The narrator’s point was, we are American citizens, all of us, and we have a right to get angry when our constitutional rights and those of registered citizens families are set aside not only by the legislators but by law enforcement and the general public. No I’m not suggesting we go out and blow up bridges, violence does no good for anyone, but we can and should start standing our ground and not be afraid to defend ourselves, because we know that we are in the right.
It is time that the group get angry and stop being polite. They have declared war on us, now It is time that we recognize that and we declare war on the legislators that put forth the bills to bolster their political venue without consideration to the Constitutional violations of their bills. It is time to get angry at the law enforcement that steps outside of its legal boundaries to make the lives of registrants and their families a living hell. It is time to start attacking the sociopathic vigilantes who feel that they have the right to break any law of man or God in their seeking of vengeance for imaginary wrongs.
We need to break out the 60s protest songs like Blowing in the Wind, The Times are a Changing, The Great Mandala (the wheel of life) El Salvador and Don’t Laugh at Me (by Peter Paul and Mary)
Anyone who proposes violence against another person or group quite obviously must have sociopathic tendencies. People with these antisocial tendencies can be found in the response or comment section of any article that involves a sex crime on the Web. If the same type of comment used against registered citizens was placed on the web against the president of the United States, the Secret Service would hunt down these people and either imprisoned them or lock them in an asylum.
It is time to get militant and strike back at the evil legislators who present bills that violate the Bill of Rights without considering the collateral consequences of their actions. It is time to take a stand against the sociopathic vigilantes who attack registered citizens and use bullying techniques and threats of physical harm and law enforcement who turns a blind eye when violations of civil rights are perpetrated upon registered citizens, not to mention the reporters and media outlets that twist the truth and perpetuate myths and lies. Last, but not least, are the professional therapist who use behavior modification and confrontational therapy that has been proven to increase the risk of re-offense. These same said therapists who disregard the confidentiality of their clients in violation of their Hippocratic oath and in some cases, state law by reporting information to parole and probation officers and showing total disregard for the effect of calling their clients liars and by forcing them to take polygraph and plethysmograph tests.
www.idiotsregistry.com is a start, but it needs to be expanded on by placing legislators and their staff members who present bills Whether they apply to registered citizens or to anyone else that violate the constitutional standards of our country on the list. The list should include all law enforcement, who arecharged with misconduct or a crime. There should also be a place for any other public official who makes Biased’ derogatory or faults statements or does things that violate the constitutional standards that have been set down in the Bill of Rights. There should be a place for the sociopathic vigilantes who spout lies and put forth misinformation And a special place for those vigilantes that put forth threats of violence against individuals or groups, and in some cases actually attack, or by their actions cause registered citizens and family members to be attacked and physically harmed. There also should be a place for Treatment providers Who use dubious methods in their treatment procedures or cause their clients to be violated.
In Ayn Rand’s epic novel ‘Atlas Shrugged’ she predicted the downfall of American society by the loss of individual freedoms. The all-encompassing power of the government to control and regulate every portion of our lives and how the people in power will use rhetoric and propaganda to divert the people’s attention away from what they are doing , which is to further strip individual freedoms from American citizens Always in the name of safety.
We need a community notification website that shows the bigoted statements, miss-information, criminal behavior, civil rights and constitutional violations of these people, after all, THEY believe that having community notification about past actions will protect the community, because after all, past actions of behavior are a definite prediction according to them of future dangerousness to a community. This website needs to have not only their name, and the actions that put them on our registry. but also their business address, home address, e-mail address, the vehicles that they drive and home phone number. After all this is all public information, so when somebody does a search for these people they should find the truth out about what these people are Really like.
Perhaps when they and their family members become the brunt of ridicule and their children come crying home from school because of being ridiculed they will begin to understand that the community notification portion of the registry is in fact a form of punishment more severe than being imprisoned.
Dave in the Philippines
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Community notification of the Looters of society
by Robert Wolf • February 13, 2014 • 0 Comments
Dont Tread on meThis information is going to be a bit hard-core. In a recent blog talk radio show titled Viva La Revolution on Activist Central http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ActivistCentral the narrator put forth the point that the government has made war upon registered citizens, their parents, spouses, siblings and children as well as their employers and friends. As pointed out perhaps we should consider ourselves the resistance fighters in that war and not just fight it at an intellectual level, trying quietly to present the overwhelming mountain of evidence that shows that 99% of the people on the registry will not reoffend and that over 99% of all new sex crimes are committed by people that are not on the registry and that there is an extreme collateral damage, not only to the registered citizens but also to everyone that is associated with them. This quiet action has not got us very far in that new laws continue to be created, more restrictive and devastating than those before. The narrator’s point was, we are American citizens, all of us, and we have a right to get angry when our constitutional rights and those of registered citizens families are set aside not only by the legislators but by law enforcement and the general public. No I’m not suggesting we go out and blow up bridges, violence does no good for anyone, but we can and should start standing our ground and not be afraid to defend ourselves, because we know that we are in the right.
It is time that the group get angry and stop being polite. They have declared war on us, now It is time that we recognize that and we declare war on the legislators that put forth the bills to bolster their political venue without consideration to the Constitutional violations of their bills. It is time to get angry at the law enforcement that steps outside of its legal boundaries to make the lives of registrants and their families a living hell. It is time to start attacking the sociopathic vigilantes who feel that they have the right to break any law of man or God in their seeking of vengeance for imaginary wrongs.
We need to break out the 60s protest songs like Blowing in the Wind, The Times are a Changing, The Great Mandala (the wheel of life) El Salvador and Don’t Laugh at Me (by Peter Paul and Mary)
Anyone who proposes violence against another person or group quite obviously must have sociopathic tendencies. People with these antisocial tendencies can be found in the response or comment section of any article that involves a sex crime on the Web. If the same type of comment used against registered citizens was placed on the web against the president of the United States, the Secret Service would hunt down these people and either imprisoned them or lock them in an asylum.
It is time to get militant and strike back at the evil legislators who present bills that violate the Bill of Rights without considering the collateral consequences of their actions. It is time to take a stand against the sociopathic vigilantes who attack registered citizens and use bullying techniques and threats of physical harm and law enforcement who turns a blind eye when violations of civil rights are perpetrated upon registered citizens, not to mention the reporters and media outlets that twist the truth and perpetuate myths and lies. Last, but not least, are the professional therapist who use behavior modification and confrontational therapy that has been proven to increase the risk of re-offense. These same said therapists who disregard the confidentiality of their clients in violation of their Hippocratic oath and in some cases, state law by reporting information to parole and probation officers and showing total disregard for the effect of calling their clients liars and by forcing them to take polygraph and plethysmograph tests.
www.idiotsregistry.com is a start, but it needs to be expanded on by placing legislators and their staff members who present bills Whether they apply to registered citizens or to anyone else that violate the constitutional standards of our country on the list. The list should include all law enforcement, who arecharged with misconduct or a crime. There should also be a place for any other public official who makes Biased’ derogatory or faults statements or does things that violate the constitutional standards that have been set down in the Bill of Rights. There should be a place for the sociopathic vigilantes who spout lies and put forth misinformation And a special place for those vigilantes that put forth threats of violence against individuals or groups, and in some cases actually attack, or by their actions cause registered citizens and family members to be attacked and physically harmed. There also should be a place for Treatment providers Who use dubious methods in their treatment procedures or cause their clients to be violated.
In Ayn Rand’s epic novel ‘Atlas Shrugged’ she predicted the downfall of American society by the loss of individual freedoms. The all-encompassing power of the government to control and regulate every portion of our lives and how the people in power will use rhetoric and propaganda to divert the people’s attention away from what they are doing , which is to further strip individual freedoms from American citizens Always in the name of safety.
We need a community notification website that shows the bigoted statements, miss-information, criminal behavior, civil rights and constitutional violations of these people, after all, THEY believe that having community notification about past actions will protect the community, because after all, past actions of behavior are a definite prediction according to them of future dangerousness to a community. This website needs to have not only their name, and the actions that put them on our registry. but also their business address, home address, e-mail address, the vehicles that they drive and home phone number. After all this is all public information, so when somebody does a search for these people they should find the truth out about what these people are Really like.
Perhaps when they and their family members become the brunt of ridicule and their children come crying home from school because of being ridiculed they will begin to understand that the community notification portion of the registry is in fact a form of punishment more severe than being imprisoned.
Dave in the Philippines
I personally want to thank you for all the things you do for us on the board. All these links you give us help keep us informed. You are a definite asset to the board and I appreciate you.
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Dave in the Philippines
Dave in the Philippines
Maybe, someday, I'll learn how to type..But I guess that would take the fun out of everything!
Dave in the Philippines
I have to believe that the vigilantes are not the majority of society, they are just the most vocal. That there are many out there that would welcome reassurance that registrants can be rehabilitated, that they are not all the sex crazed pedophiles that media and advocacy groups make them out to be. But without hearing from registrants themselves, how would that happen? I am hoping the time is near for this issue to crack wide open, there are more and more positive reporting in the media, though it may not completely support us, many times they are including more evidence based facts, which is at least a step in the right direction. Legislators are not going to change their position until the public changes theirs, the public will not change their positions till the media starts reporting the facts about what is going on. We need to look into what our goals should be for the distant future, like years down the road because this is not going to change overnight. It will be like trudging through mud knee deep.
No, it will not stop. “Sex Offenders” are the new lepers of modern society. Many people believe that they are no longer humans. Look at the Jews in the Holocaust. Look at the early Christians in Rome. We must stand up and stand proud, and let everyone know that once our punishment is complete, we deserve the same respect that any other human being deserves, and should receive the same treatment from our government as any other US citizen.
Why can’t we just explain to our lawmakers that these laws are unconstitutional? It’s so obvious any idiot can see it!
We can explain until we are blue in the face. If we are good at explaining, our lawmakers will “get it.” But then they have to be willing to propose changing the laws. And they are every bit as terrified of taking a stand against sexual offender registration, as are the registrants themselves.
Taking my case back to court to challenge the registry is scary! Someone might harass or threaten me/my family/my employer/etc. Is there any way to avoid that risk?
No. But there is also significant risk in doing nothing at all. As long as lawmakers and law enforcement think nobody cares what they do, they WILL continue to make things worse. But once we start to fight back we will begin to see change.
I’m afraid of speaking to my representatives. Couldn’t I get arrested/seen on TV/harassed?
It’s very unlikely that you will be arrested for communicating with an elected official, because that is your right. You are their constituent, and represent a potential vote for them in the next election. They will listen to you – even if they don’t much care for “sex offenders” as a whole. You simply can make an appointment with your representative, and talk with him/her in an office. Be on your best professional behavior, and share your message as concisely and clearly as possible. Will it change his/her mind? Maybe not – but no harm will come from it.
Public testimony does carry some risk but you will not be arrested just for testifying at a hearing. Even people under supervision have that right. However, you might be recognized or your face could be shown on television. If you aren’t “out” with your employer or neighbors, or if law enforcement in your jurisdiction tend to be unfriendly to registrants, that could mean trouble. If this is a show-stopper for you, consider sending WRITTEN testimony instead.
Dave in the Philippines
When Rew heaps on the praise I'm learning that means he probably wants you to do something :)
And what were the crimes - accidental viewing of CP once, kids engaging in sex with each other, an ex-spouse who wants custody and uses the criminal courts to achieve the goal. There are pedofiles out there and people who believe children's sexuality should be exploited for profit, but to label all sex offenders and treat all sex offenders as if they were violent pedofiles is wrong, wrong, wrong. And the definition of pedofillia:
" As a medical diagnosis, it is a psychiatric disorder in persons 16 years of age or older. An adolescent who is 16 years of age or older must be at least five years older than the prepubescent child before the attraction can be diagnosed as pedophilia." Does anyone really believe this disorder begins at 16 for diagnosis? Society is willing to diagnos and treat autisim at a very early age - what about pedofillia, or are we too afraid to help our children in this area?
Any man convicted of sexual battery, whether it happened or not, is deemed a violent offender.
Until we can figure out a way for sex offenders and their friends and family to begin peaceful protests and demonstrations in the open, like the GLBT and the Blacks before them, willing to suffer the slings and arrows, just like those folks have done and are doing, we will remain as we are "the witches of Salem."
I understand that sex offenders on probation/parole will not be allowed to demonstrate for fear of retaliation and return to prison- but I also know that I alone cannot begin out of fear. But there is strength in numbers.
Dave in the Philippines
Dave in the Philippines
I know it is frustrating, it infuriated me to no end when I finally figured out the difficulty of bringing litigation against anything civil or bringing a federal case about the unconstitutionality of state laws. It is not as easy as people are led to believe in civics class.