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Just got this in an email.
The original link has been moved, so I will copy and paste the text of the email.
6-3-2013 National:
A farm bill amendment is supposedly aimed at curbing rampant welfare fraud and abuse, but advocacy groups see it as another setback for the recovering incarcerated population.
An amendment to the pending farm bill that would deny food stamps to convicted murderers, rapists and pedophiles is receiving stiff opposition.
Sponsored by Sen. David Vitter (R-La.), amendment 1056 would ban food assistance through the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP) for life for anyone ever convicted of certain offenses, also reducing benefits for the person's children and family members.
SNAP, which is overseen by the Department of Agriculture, has doubled in cost since 2008 because of the economic recession. In 2012, 46.6 million Americans participated in SNAP at a cost of $78.4 billion.
Vitter, who is currently traveling, couldn't be reached immediately for comment, but his spokesperson Luke Bolar told MSN News that the amendment had been accepted by the Senate. Bolar said that final passage of the new five-year farm bill — which sets policies for farm subsidies and food stamps — could come this week.
Currently, there is a lifetime ban on food stamps for convicted drug felons only, although Bolar said that "many states have opted out of or modified that ban."
'WIDESPREAD FRAUD AND ABUSE'
The amendment "would establish a complete ban in the program for anyone who's committed a violent rape, a crime of pedophilia or murder, and there would be no opt-out for states," Vitter said when introducing the amendment.
Bolar said the driving force behind the amendment was an audit from the Louisiana Legislative Auditor’s Office on the federally funded Louisiana food stamp program from 2010-2012, which found that there were duplicates and overpayments of millions.
The results show that more than $1.1 million was issued to 1,761 people who were in prison, 322 people gained benefits even though their wages exceeded $50,000, and 3,060 people used $2 million worth of benefits in a state other than Louisiana, according to a press release from Vitter's office.
Advocacy groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union and the NAACP are criticizing the amendment, saying that it would impose even more hurdles for members of the incarcerated population who are already struggling to re-enter society.
"This hastily considered amendment is unjust, cruel and counterproductive," wrote research and advocacy group the Sentencing Project, which says that of those in prison, about one in six were convicted of offenses the amendment targets.
"Most of these individuals will one day be released," the project says. "Over time, the food stamp ban would be felt by well over a million people, with communities of color disproportionately affected. This loss of food assistance would be in addition to the felony drug ban already in effect."
OPPOSITION SPEAKS OUT
Nearly three dozen criminal justice and civil rights groups signed a letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid arguing that the amendment would "impose a burden on thousands of seniors, children, and working families hardest hit by the nation’s economic downturn."
"Because it is retroactive, an elderly person who long ago completed his or her prison sentence could lose SNAP benefits under this amendment," the letter states. "A grandmother who decades ago was implicated in a violent crime could lose food stamps for her household … A family working to make ends meet upon a relative’s re-entry from prison could be denied a lifeline and plunged further into poverty."
The letter points out that those with criminal records already have to jump through thousands of federal, state and local hoops to gain employment, education, housing and public benefits.
Conservative website Breitbart.com applauded Vitter's amendment, writing: "Thank God we can all agree that taxpayers shouldn't be forced to feed murderers, rapists, and pedophiles."
Vitter also introduced an amendment to end the free government cell phone program for low-income subscribers, which has been referred to as "Obama phone."
"I think the entire program is an entitlement mentality gone wild ... that we have started the notion that folks are entitled to the government, the taxpayer, providing them almost everything under the sun," Vitter said while introducing the amendment, contending that it had also resulted in rampant waste and abuse.
That amendment has yet to receive a Senate vote. ..Source.. by Riya Bhattacharjee of MSN News
Note in the article, there is this little tidbit:
"Conservative website Breitbart.com applauded Vitter's amendment, writing: "Thank God we can all agree that taxpayers shouldn't be forced to feed murderers, rapists, and pedophiles."
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The original link has been moved, so I will copy and paste the text of the email.
6-3-2013 National:
A farm bill amendment is supposedly aimed at curbing rampant welfare fraud and abuse, but advocacy groups see it as another setback for the recovering incarcerated population.
An amendment to the pending farm bill that would deny food stamps to convicted murderers, rapists and pedophiles is receiving stiff opposition.
Sponsored by Sen. David Vitter (R-La.), amendment 1056 would ban food assistance through the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP) for life for anyone ever convicted of certain offenses, also reducing benefits for the person's children and family members.
SNAP, which is overseen by the Department of Agriculture, has doubled in cost since 2008 because of the economic recession. In 2012, 46.6 million Americans participated in SNAP at a cost of $78.4 billion.
Vitter, who is currently traveling, couldn't be reached immediately for comment, but his spokesperson Luke Bolar told MSN News that the amendment had been accepted by the Senate. Bolar said that final passage of the new five-year farm bill — which sets policies for farm subsidies and food stamps — could come this week.
Currently, there is a lifetime ban on food stamps for convicted drug felons only, although Bolar said that "many states have opted out of or modified that ban."
'WIDESPREAD FRAUD AND ABUSE'
The amendment "would establish a complete ban in the program for anyone who's committed a violent rape, a crime of pedophilia or murder, and there would be no opt-out for states," Vitter said when introducing the amendment.
Bolar said the driving force behind the amendment was an audit from the Louisiana Legislative Auditor’s Office on the federally funded Louisiana food stamp program from 2010-2012, which found that there were duplicates and overpayments of millions.
The results show that more than $1.1 million was issued to 1,761 people who were in prison, 322 people gained benefits even though their wages exceeded $50,000, and 3,060 people used $2 million worth of benefits in a state other than Louisiana, according to a press release from Vitter's office.
Advocacy groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union and the NAACP are criticizing the amendment, saying that it would impose even more hurdles for members of the incarcerated population who are already struggling to re-enter society.
"This hastily considered amendment is unjust, cruel and counterproductive," wrote research and advocacy group the Sentencing Project, which says that of those in prison, about one in six were convicted of offenses the amendment targets.
"Most of these individuals will one day be released," the project says. "Over time, the food stamp ban would be felt by well over a million people, with communities of color disproportionately affected. This loss of food assistance would be in addition to the felony drug ban already in effect."
OPPOSITION SPEAKS OUT
Nearly three dozen criminal justice and civil rights groups signed a letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid arguing that the amendment would "impose a burden on thousands of seniors, children, and working families hardest hit by the nation’s economic downturn."
"Because it is retroactive, an elderly person who long ago completed his or her prison sentence could lose SNAP benefits under this amendment," the letter states. "A grandmother who decades ago was implicated in a violent crime could lose food stamps for her household … A family working to make ends meet upon a relative’s re-entry from prison could be denied a lifeline and plunged further into poverty."
The letter points out that those with criminal records already have to jump through thousands of federal, state and local hoops to gain employment, education, housing and public benefits.
Conservative website Breitbart.com applauded Vitter's amendment, writing: "Thank God we can all agree that taxpayers shouldn't be forced to feed murderers, rapists, and pedophiles."
Vitter also introduced an amendment to end the free government cell phone program for low-income subscribers, which has been referred to as "Obama phone."
"I think the entire program is an entitlement mentality gone wild ... that we have started the notion that folks are entitled to the government, the taxpayer, providing them almost everything under the sun," Vitter said while introducing the amendment, contending that it had also resulted in rampant waste and abuse.
That amendment has yet to receive a Senate vote. ..Source.. by Riya Bhattacharjee of MSN News
Note in the article, there is this little tidbit:
"Conservative website Breitbart.com applauded Vitter's amendment, writing: "Thank God we can all agree that taxpayers shouldn't be forced to feed murderers, rapists, and pedophiles."
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So Breitbart.com said that..So what? The amendment was passed UNANIMOUSLY by the Senate...Last I looked, the Senate is controlled by the left....
So far, I believe that it ht has only been passed by House committee, UNANIMOUSLY,...Guess what? There are Libs on the Committee....
Odumbo said he will support the amendment....He is pretty far left......Just a little tidbit...
Didn't you just say you have no love for Dumbocrats and Repugnants?
I am a Conservative, Libertarian leaning Independent who is tired of paying for people who are scamming the system, I have a family member who is receiving food stamps, does work for low wages, yet has a nice camping trailer, 65 inch TV, 4 wheeler, Wave Runners(3) but can't pay their utility bill....
I make decent money and don't even have a 65 inch TV, much less the other stuff,but all my bills are paid each month.
I am against this amendment because it is targeting a specific group of people, using the excuse that these people are abusing the system ignoring the fact that the a lot of RSO's are single and thus are not eligible for food stamps...I would shovel manure for a temp agency before i asked for food stamps..
Did you not say we need a viable 3rd party?
Why not look at Libertarian?(and I don't mean Ron Paul, try John Stossel) I don't agree on everything, but I think that is our best hope for a third Party...
I wasn't going to put my opinion in on this because it is unpopular on this site, but when you just had to blame Conservatives I had to set the record straight.....
PS, I voted for Gen. Peter Cooke(D) for Governor Utah...Not the asshole who won...
That OK, Coastie. I like your fire and respect your opinion even if I don’t agree sometimes. And even if we don’t agree, we will still be friends.
So, it doesn’t bother you at all that a Conservative web site is a big proponent of the bill and that they made such a biased statement against felons and sex offenders? OK.
So it doesn’t bother you that Vitter is a well known Republican Conservative and he is the main author of this bill? OK. Surely you won’t tell me that Vitter is not a Republican or is not a Conservative.
Obama, far left? You can’t be serious. Obama is close to the center. There are very, very few left wing, progressive, liberal politicians any more. Everything has moved to the right.
I agree with you that you work hard and that you see others who abuse the system and have many amenities---and it gripes you, as it should.
But the idea that the Republican Conservatives are not responsible for introducing a lot of this legislation that hurts all sex offenders is just not based on facts. I hope you don’t want to argue with the facts.
And to say that Obama’s political policies emanate from the left is just as wrong. Obama leads from the center. Well, he doesn’t lead at all. He is a disappointment and not a leader, but he is certainly not a left wing liberal.
But this is OK. Your opinion is valuable and I respect your right to say what you believe. Not many people will do that.
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Obozo close to the center ? Really ? Is that why he tried to have guns banned ? Or believes drones killing Americans without due process is just fine ? Is that why he wants the IRS running the medical industry ? 16,000 new IRS agents to make sure you pay YOUR fair share ... center - right ? Name anything he has done that is center OR right leaning.
Vitter is a hypocrite , just like the the governor of Louisiana , dear old Bobbyboy. Let's face it - if it comes out of Washington , it isn't good. Dumicans or Republicrats , makes no difference , they do not care about any of us. Power is all consuming to them.
John Stossel ,huh? I like John Stossel. Yeah , I could get behind him ...
And our ideas are also formed by our life's experiences.
No, I am not a fan of Obama. He has been a terrible leader of this country and has bowed to big business and the upper class. He has made me furious at times and he did not keep any of his promises. I am so disgusted with him that I don't even care to hear anything he has to say.
The thing about Obama that makes me furious is that he has had such a poor record on civil liberties.
Yes, I will say it once more. Democrates do vote for these bills, but the Republicans are the ones who introduce the bills in the first place. That is just a fact. People can intrerpret that in however they wish, but that is just the way it is.
And no, I am not in this red state, blue state stuff. Both parties have failed the middle class, hard working people like the people on this board who are doing their best to make it from paycheck to paycheck just to survive.
Both parties are corrupt and we definitely need a third party. I doubt that a third party would be viable at this point, as not enough citizens of this country are fed up with the two party system, but maybe someday.
We certainly need someone who can represent the middle class.
I follow many reputable political boards and the majority agrees that Obama is a moderate, more centrist than anything. My point was that he certainly is not a left wing liberal. He is certainly to the left of the Republicans. How centrist is he or how far left from the Republicans is he? Nobody really can agree on that.
But I do know one thing---We, as a group, need to stick together. I do not really care about politics that much and the first politician or judge that puts a stake in this registry nonsense will be my hero regardless of his skin color or his political persuasion. Really that is what I really care about.
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Cool. I am glad that neither of us take this personal. So we disagree. That is OK.
We are different people who see things differently--for whatever reason.
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It might not even go into effect that fast,as they would have to create new forms, I would think.
Tho' i could be wrong
devastating blow to us and I imagine other households, maybe we should
go start a petition against it.
This is so easy. I just called my two senators and spoke to a female staffer for each senator. I told them of my opposition to the amendment and they thanked me for calling. One of them even sounded very sympathetic.
Just call! I didn't even know who my senators were. The switchboard operator told me.