Good for you Nak. I'm glad you can stand up against the PO.

Nako,
No, they can't keep track of their lies. That is why I started taking detailed note of every meeting and phone call. That pissed him off. He got over it.

Yeah.. and that's why I paid a lawyer 2K to make sure my son didn't have to take treatment... and then, according to the PO I insisted he take it.
If we have to go back to his office I'm brining pen and paper.

I was wondering if I could clearly have a tape recorder out when he comes for his visit. If I ask if it's ok to record, or since it's my home or my shop I can just do it anyway.

I have a feeling he's not going to really bother us much. He knows I can pay for a lawyer and maybe he doesn't want to deal with that. Or he gets worse. There's no telling what a stupid person will do.

Amen to that! It will be interesting to see which direction he go in. My family and I are pullin' for ya!

Thanks!
I'll keep you guys updated of course. And I appreciate that I have a place to vent and talk about it. I have no friends and even tho my son and I talk about it , well.. just nice to have a place where others understand.

Plus I think it helps to share experiences. I've gotten a lot of insight from others and what they've had to go thru.

Just a few weeks after my arrest, I met with my defense attorney. We went over the probable cause affidavit use by the cops to obtain an arrest warrant. I never saw so many lies in my life.

At that point, I was very naïve, as we all are when we first begin this journey into hell. Remember, this was 1992 and back then we did not have the Internet to warn us that cops are habitual liars, so it shocked me that an "honorable police officer" (an oxymoron if there ever was one) would lie like that.

I asked my defense attorney about it and he said, "Oh yeah, cops will lie all the time if they know they cannot get caught."

How far we all have come. This is why cops, POs, COs, DA investigators, detectives (the worst) can NEVER be trusted and it is imperative that a person never speak to them without an attorney present.

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You mentioned recording. I had/have a friend that had video surveillance with audio capabilities in his store and home. The PO saw the cameras and asked him to turn it off. He asked why and the PO didn't respond. It was never turned off and the PO made the minimum visits to his home and store after that and they lasted 5 minutes.
He is the one that told me to take notes during visits to the PO's office. I don't think they allow recording devices in the building. However, with the new smart phones, how would they know?

I was thinking about doing the video surveillance a while back.. and just never got around to it. I need to look into having it installed. I know I can buy a system and put it in myself. This is top of my list again now and I will do that.
I thought about turning my phone on when we were in his office.. I should have.

Hi Nakohichi,
I am a registered ex sex offender here in PA. I took a plea that sentenced me to 11 and a half to 23 months in the county jail followed by 7 years probation. and to register for ten years on megans flaw. My conviction was on a misdemeanor indecent assault. I served 14 months of my sentence and got paroled. when i first went to meet my p.o she told i could not live with my sister because she has 2 children under 18, so i lived in the garage as it was detached from the home, and that was ok with her. she also told me i would be required to attend weekly s.o treatment for the duration of my paper.

When the adam walsh act kicked in here in pa i became a lifetime registrant, I had an agreement of ten year, long story short I got an attorney to fight the adam walsh being applied to me...no luck, all the DA would agree to was to reduce my probation from seven years to three years and stated i do not have to attend s.o treatment. this was after going for 15 months of them. Boy was my po mad. she wrote the judge letters telling him that i needed to be in treatment, the lady only met me 15 times, once a month for ten minutes. how can she be such an expert to judge me? so my attorney said if he sees any form of retaliation from her we would sue them. so now she has me come in once a month and just waves to me and says see you next month.
I am so glad i got released from those horrible classes, three women counselors and ten rso's in a room for an hour and a half, listening to horror stories from some really bad people, subject to polygraph testing to make sure you didn't look at porn, they would even have you audio record your masturbation and you had to talk out your fantasy so they could determine if you were being sexually deviate.
Just thank your God your son doesn't have to attend those scam classes!

treborjo,

You said, "When the adam walsh act kicked in here in pa i became a lifetime registrant, I had an agreement of ten year, long story short I got an attorney to fight the adam walsh being applied to me..."

We were talking about this on another thread. In both Oklahoma and Ohio, the Supreme Courts of those states ruled that the new SORNA rules, the tiers and son on, were punitive and could not be applied retroactively to those registrants who were convicted before SORNA was enacted in the state, which in Oklahoma's situation, was 2007.

The new SORNA law in Oklahoma increased a tier 3 registrant from registering once a year to every 90 days and increased the duration of the registration period from ten years to lifetime. The court ruling said the state could not do that as the SORNA laws were punitive and violated the ex post facto portion of the Oklahoma State Constitution.

The case is Starkey vs. Oklahoma Department of Corrections, and here is the link.

http://tiny.cc/g9iocx

The attorney who argued and won the case for Mr. Starkey was John Dunn from Tulsa.

Here is a link to his site explaining the case.

http://tiny.cc/1bjocx

This ruling forced the Oklahoma Department of Corrections to remove thousands of registrants from the registry.

I beseech you and others in other states to look at this opinion and see if it can help get them off the registry or at least shorten their registration requirements.

You might check into this case. I think the same reasoning might be applied not only in Pennsylvania, but other states who enhanced the registration requirements with the passage of SORNA.

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Hi Rew,
I did read the other thread your talking about, thanks for the links, ill be sure to check them out.
not to take away from your thread nik, but wanted to say that I did file a post conviction relief act looking to challenge the walsh act in my case, and as i said no luck, the court said i could throw out everything and start over meaning going back to jail until my new trial witch could result in 20 to 40 upstate, or take a reduction in sentence i already have and threw in the no s.o treatment to sweeten the deal. in hind sight I should have done it, gone back to jail and a new trial.

Nako,
Video surveillance equipment has gotten very cheap. The system my friend had cost thousands especially with the audio capability. It was also large and obtrusive. The stuff they have now is so small you can't see it unless you look for it. All you would need to do is post a sign somewhere to make all of the recordings admissible in court.