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http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/08/13/sex-offender-defends-nicholas-elizondo
Oklahoma mother Lisa Knight is wondering why a judge has sent her 6-year-old daughter to live with her father, Nicholas Elizondo, who is a registered sex offender.
Elizondo was sentenced for sexually assaulting his other 6-year-old daughter six years ago in California, but he claims he was wrongfully convicted.
On Tuesday night, Dr. Drew was joined by Derek Logue, a convicted sex offender, who fights for the rights of people like Elizondo.
“The judge did what many should do -- go beyond the label and look at the person before them,” Logue said. “Not every sex offender is a pedophile. There are a lot of ways to land on a sex registry these days. Not everybody did so because they molested or raped somebody. Until society looks at it from an evidence-based standpoint, we're never going to be able to get past the label."
Oklahoma mother Lisa Knight is wondering why a judge has sent her 6-year-old daughter to live with her father, Nicholas Elizondo, who is a registered sex offender.
Elizondo was sentenced for sexually assaulting his other 6-year-old daughter six years ago in California, but he claims he was wrongfully convicted.
On Tuesday night, Dr. Drew was joined by Derek Logue, a convicted sex offender, who fights for the rights of people like Elizondo.
“The judge did what many should do -- go beyond the label and look at the person before them,” Logue said. “Not every sex offender is a pedophile. There are a lot of ways to land on a sex registry these days. Not everybody did so because they molested or raped somebody. Until society looks at it from an evidence-based standpoint, we're never going to be able to get past the label."
I agree Dr. Drew is a joke, let the conversation go off topic and it was more of an attack against Derek.
I applaud his efforts to help educate others and help change the movement that is putting more and more people on the registry daily.
I made a boo-boo in my post. I should have said, "an 11-year-old child" cannot consent to sex. However, there are even exceptions to that, such as those who engage in normal, developmental play who are being placed on the Registry by over-zealous parents. So, getting even more specific, "an 11-year-old child cannot consent to sex with an adult." Again, if the partner was 16? What a can of worms!
I just think that Dr. Drew is absolute poison. As was pointed out earlier, his only message is to feed the hysteria. I sorry if I insulted you, Derek.
I was responding to "11 year old". An 11 year old was a child. It is clear the whole show was not put up. Something is missing. It jumps from what do you mean by contact to statements being made that sex between an 11 year old and an adult are never consensual or OK.
What Derek meant by contact was never revealed. I assumed that the way it jumped into the 11 year old scenario and his lack of denial on the show meant that he had sex with an 11 year old. That is the way it came across. I realize that there was cutting and pasting and I don't know how much.
Yes, I agree that there are probably few people out there who are not in some way connected to a SO to be an advocate. Still, that is the ideal. I understand we have to work with what is. And, yes, they would probably be attacked as a SO enabler.
I can also understand that why people would not want to see a six year old going to the very man who had molested his older daughter when she was the same age. When it comes to protecting children in a custody case, I say err on the side of the child being away from someone who has been known to molest his own children.
I do not agree, however, with the registry laws or with the jobs and housing restrictions. But custody of a child is a whole other issue.
As someone else wrote, there are some actions that have lasting consequences. I am not saying the child should not have relationship with her father, just not unsupervised physical contact.
Deena
It looks like the father in this case was the victim of a false accusation. His alleged victim, a stepdaughter, testified on his behalf during the custody hearings that she said what her mother told her to say and that the accusations were false.
He's had numerous tests done that show he's low-risk...duh! But because his accuser said he'd touched her breast are over clothes when she was around age 8, he's now a tier 3 under AWA and must register for life.
Yeah, I know, makes a lot of sense since 8 year olds generally don't have "breasts" in the sexual sense, and you can easily touch that area over clothing just lifting a child up.
But anyway...
Point is that I'd hate to see laws that paint everyone with the same broad brush. We already have enough of that. There are plenty of cases where it would be reasonable for a RSO to have custody of their children
If you have two kids "playing" not knowing what they are doing, they shouldn't be convicted of a crime. The only time it should be prosecuted is when there was an unwilling participant.