Very good info corso, wish I would've known that when I took the test. But back the the Internet was not what it is today.

Are these tests applied/ used to assess youngsters (JSO's) ?

Yes they are. I actually think I got this version of the test when I had it done based on the age of my offense:

http://abelscreening.com/products/evaluation-treatment-planning/aasi-2/

Independent: First ) did you or your parents/ guardians ever give you written results at the time or after the "screening" or multiple screening?" What assumptions did others make that you should be given this AAIS-2 later? (how much later and at what age?) How are screening of one individual compared to each other and what scales are used and to document "improvement" over time?

Second) as an adult do you think the results of the AAIS-2 were valid then or SSSI screening taken now now? Do you believe that even if testing was "based on the age of your offense" it might have been important to take adult growth and maturity into account? Adults are not "innocent" of the requirements of the tests they take or of the ramifications of "required" tests upon their freedom / or tier classification. Since these test are required and are often "given" and charged for by "tame" psychiatrists" hired by and on retainer to prosecutors with "skin in the game"

I think permission for such test are often given by "guardian" / parents who are themselves nieve" as to the law and what might happen to their son or grandson/ or by courts and social workers who have nieve "faith" in the tests. Psychiatrists use by juvenile court are sometimes little more that "hired guns" believing in the same prejudices rampant in the larger community.

I'm concerned because I think many of these " tests" given teen then (and later expected of adults) are dodgy at best and even statistically not really calibrated to reflect age and maturity let alone naivety and prejudice since "once and offender always an "offender" is a belief many if not most "researchers" held/ hold dear when tests like this are invented (and now widely marketed to LE and testers who profit from testing just like they profit from required "group therapy" etc ) (please see the new book Un-fair, the new science of criminal injustice by Adam Benforado to get an idea of how far "scientific tests" uncorrected for the effects of community prejudices upon "results" skews the "new" science of criminal injustice.)

People in prison and those facing jail time and Registry need to pass / program to avoid the tier system and keep "scientific" information from being used against them. Also,after experiencing imprisonment as a young adult a person might have his or her own doubts and have further reasons to need to "pass" tests through programing.

For my part, the AASI-2 test says it's for boys and girls. Given the "gender" prejudices alone, what "standards do they base " interest" upon? Girls are "supposed" to be more interested in children. If a boy sows more "interest than a girls in girl children but not in boys children general" is he homosexual or is he a pedophile or are the tests themselves or even a prejudiced "tester" perhaps fatally "flawed?
Should such tests be used on straight/ gay / lesbian or transgender youngsters or adults? Sexual interest in / "sodomy" was also once was considered perverted and then criminalized no matter what age or whether any adult consent was involved. (the claw back aspects of the current AWA will include sexual convictions for "crimes" such as "sodomy" even if those crimes are now unconstitutional. California is presently resisting a court order to date the crimes of all registrants which may or may not give relief to some registrants)

But back to the topic: at hand JSO's adjudicated as adults are still criminalized as committing a crime against a child even though they may have been juveniles/ children themselves and their victim also a child when their child sex crime was committed.

But we persist in using "adult" definitions and adult tests and rampant prejudices to criminalize (and test) children under the AWA law.

Even though recent statistics show that 36% of "child molesters" recently added to the AWA registries were themselves, juveniles with "crimes against other juveniles and adjudicated as adults. (never mind what happens to adjudicated children sent to adult jails and prison and placed upon state and national registries and subjected to tests standardized before the AWA act now used against/ to test "offenders" in pay or else tests / treatment when failure to agree or to pass means they aren't "cured" daren't marry, can't have contact with their own children or might be at risk of violation causing them to be sent back to prison?)
An entire web if hidden "collateral damage further "punishments" never realized at the time of their conviction as Juveniles...

Never mind that the use and abuse of such tests in a wider community context, cattle-prod electrical tests are still widely used by evangelicals (like Michele Bauman's psychiatrist husband to un-gay boys in evangelical communities who then use these scientific tests ( in conjunction with praying the gay away) ,to "prove" that young men under going their scientific treatment are no longer interested in sex with children (or other sex with males or perhaps sex with anyone, male or female?)

Psychic tests are neither inviolate, nor are they God speaking psycho-babble from the mouths of the new Evangelical's / Psychiatric/ Scientific book of tests but just science and religion driven by prejudice morph beyond sexual abuse. Remember

Psychiatrists for hire who lent their "expertise" to CIA torture programs justifying private prisons and places like Guantanamo (and the DSM that labeled Gays in the military as "commie sympathizers" during the red scare of the late 1940's and early 1950"s when California incented to first "pervert" Registries to catalogue "Gays"

Now they use the tests to elicit "information" about other "Strangers/ Pedophiles/ Hannibal Lectors and child molesters all now said to posing danger" to Americans...Registries morphing on beyond Sex Panic into the current fear of terrorist and the new dangers...the new "mentally ill" with guns, the crazy strangers to pass more laws against to for more eager physiatrists to profile and test and back ground check. .While at the same time we do nothing prevent Hate mongers from inciting the vigilantes who already target registrants and their families??? And former and present JSO's and their families beware future "testing." LOL?

Independent: First ) did you or your parents/ guardians ever give you written results at the time or after the "screening" or multiple screening?" What assumptions did others make that you should be given this AAIS-2 later? (how much later and at what age?) How are screening of one individual compared to each other and what scales are used and to document "improvement" over time?

Second) as an adult do you think the results of the AAIS-2 were valid then or SSSI screening taken now now? Do you believe that even if testing was "based on the age of your offense" it might have been important to take adult growth and maturity into account? Adults are not "innocent" of the requirements of the tests they take or of the ramifications of "required" tests upon their freedom / or tier classification. Since these test are required and are often "given" and charged for by "tame" psychiatrists" hired by and on retainer to prosecutors with "skin in the game"

I think permission for such test are often given by "guardian" / parents who are themselves nieve" as to the law and what might happen to their son or grandson/ or by courts and social workers who have nieve "faith" in the tests. Psychiatrists use by juvenile court are sometimes little more that "hired guns" believing in the same prejudices rampant in the larger community.

I'm concerned because I think many of these " tests" given teen then (and later expected of adults) are dodgy at best and even statistically not really calibrated to reflect age and maturity let alone naivety and prejudice since "once and offender always an "offender" is a belief many if not most "researchers" held/ hold dear when tests like this are invented (and now widely marketed to LE and testers who profit from testing just like they profit from required "group therapy" etc ) (please see the new book Un-fair, the new science of criminal injustice by Adam Benforado to get an idea of how far "scientific tests" uncorrected for the effects of community prejudices upon "results" skews the "new" science of criminal injustice.)

People in prison and those facing jail time and Registry need to pass / program to avoid the tier system and keep "scientific" information from being used against them. Also,after experiencing imprisonment as a young adult a person might have his or her own doubts and have further reasons to need to "pass" tests through programing.

For my part, the AASI-2 test says it's for boys and girls. Given the "gender" prejudices alone, what "standards do they base " interest" upon? Girls are "supposed" to be more interested in children. If a boy sows more "interest than a girls in girl children but not in boys children general" is he homosexual or is he a pedophile or are the tests themselves or even a prejudiced "tester" perhaps fatally "flawed?
Should such tests be used on straight/ gay / lesbian or transgender youngsters or adults? Sexual interest in / "sodomy" was also once was considered perverted and then criminalized no matter what age or whether any adult consent was involved. (the claw back aspects of the current AWA will include sexual convictions for "crimes" such as "sodomy" even if those crimes are now unconstitutional. California is presently resisting a court order to date the crimes of all registrants which may or may not give relief to some registrants)

But back to the topic: at hand JSO's adjudicated as adults are still criminalized as committing a crime against a child even though they may have been juveniles/ children themselves and their victim also a child when their child sex crime was committed.

But we persist in using "adult" definitions and adult tests and rampant prejudices to criminalize (and test) children under the AWA law.

Even though recent statistics show that 36% of "child molesters" recently added to the AWA registries were themselves, juveniles with "crimes against other juveniles and adjudicated as adults. (never mind what happens to adjudicated children sent to adult jails and prison and placed upon state and national registries and subjected to tests standardized before the AWA act now used against/ to test "offenders" in pay or else tests / treatment when failure to agree or to pass means they aren't "cured" daren't marry, can't have contact with their own children or might be at risk of violation causing them to be sent back to prison?)
An entire web if hidden "collateral damage further "punishments" never realized at the time of their conviction as Juveniles...

Never mind that the use and abuse of such tests in a wider community context, cattle-prod electrical tests are still widely used by evangelicals (like Michele Bauman's psychiatrist husband to un-gay boys in evangelical communities who then use these scientific tests ( in conjunction with praying the gay away) ,to "prove" that young men under going their scientific treatment are no longer interested in sex with children (or other sex with males or perhaps sex with anyone, male or female?)

Psychic tests are neither inviolate, nor are they God speaking psycho-babble from the mouths of the new Evangelical's / Psychiatric/ Scientific book of tests but just science and religion driven by prejudice morph beyond sexual abuse. Remember

Psychiatrists for hire who lent their "expertise" to CIA torture programs justifying private prisons and places like Guantanamo (and the DSM that labeled Gays in the military as "commie sympathizers" during the red scare of the late 1940's and early 1950"s when California incented to first "pervert" Registries to catalogue "Gays"

Now they use the tests to elicit "information" about other "Strangers/ Pedophiles/ Hannibal Lectors and child molesters all now said to posing danger" to Americans...Registries morphing on beyond Sex Panic into the current fear of terrorist and the new dangers...the new "mentally ill" with guns, the crazy strangers to pass more laws against to for more eager physiatrists to profile and test and back ground check. .While at the same time we do nothing prevent Hate mongers from inciting the vigilantes who already target registrants and their families???

What do you all think?

I have no idea how to cancel an unintended duplicate Post

I got it...

Thank you.