Will be thinking of you tomorrow xx

Sentencing will be hard, but at least you will be able to know for sure and stop wondering. We have all been through this and are still here. Let us know what happened tomorrow.

Its over...the waiting was so nerve wracking. 6 to 23 months consecutive. For both counts. But concurrent to other cases. The good news is its Cumberland county so he Will move from the hellhole he's in to a much better place. Very mixed emotions right now. Sad but also some relief from the not knowing.. Need some time to get my thoughts together..gotta go to work at noon

Now that the sentencing is over, you will start feeling a bit more at ease. That's the worst part. The wondering.
6 to 23 months?? How will it be determined exactly how much time he serves?? I guess they still like to play with your heads.
Waiting for the sentence is awful. That part is over. At the worst it will be 23 months. We are just into our last 3 months of 25 months. It was tough, but we have made it this far. You can too.
I would just start focusing on your life out here now, and planning your future when he gets out. Start thinking positive. He will be home in a relatively short time.
He will be happier when he is moved to a better place, then you will also feel better, knowing he is not in the place he is in now.

6 to 23 months.....how do they work that one out?? At least there going to move him to a better place wich is something. Its is doable its not fun but its doable keep talking to us we can help.

he still has another case pending in ano th er county so he could get more time added on. it's just nerve wracking..all of it

I remember how tense I felt while we were waiting for answers from them. The put it off so long, I think to torture us more. YUK!
Keep your wits about you. It might not be as bad as you think. Some people do get off easier than others. Maybe he will be one of the lucky ones.
I saw a man who drove drunk, with his drunk mother. He drove off the road, hit a tree, and killed his mom. Didn 't end there. He moved HER body behind the steering wheel to make it look like she drove. How dare he!! He thought his mom would want him to do it he said. BUT.... the seat belt marks on her were on the wrong direction of her body. It told that she was a passenger. End result, oh sure he got sent to prison. But for only THREE years. Mine got 2 years for going to MN without permission, and driving without a license. This jerk killed his mom and moved her body to make her look guilty.
My point is, maybe yours will get lucky too. I hope so for all your sakes.

So not very good news today..the other county offers him18 months with credit for 6 served. He's looking at state time and I'm a wreck. Rewdiazepam I'm waiting for some paperwork to arrive and then I have some ?? For you. I'm not sure if he is gonna take the deal or take his chances in court e have some decision s to make.

Depends on what kind of case it is, if it's smart to not take the deal. One year seems awful to you, but what if they decide the longest possible sentence if he refuses the deal and takes it to trial. My fiance says it's usually safer to take the deal. You never know what kind of jury people that he will get. If it's a bunch of do gooder's who think every person in court are bad, then he will get worse than this offer. One year is not the end of the world, it only seems like it now. 23 months is much worse. Or longer, if that's a possibility.

Both my son and my fiance say that being in state prison is much better than county jail. County jails everyone is cooped up, don't get to go outside, most jails don't have windows, it is loud, and the guy's are bored, antsy and awful. State prison's have activities they can do, such as the gym, etc. They can get jobs to make a small amount of money to put on canteen or whatever, they can take classes, and do hobby/craft things. They have much more ways to make their time go faster in prison, versus jail.

You see on TV how scary prisons are. Mine says in reality, mostly if it is medium or minimum security the worse that happens is getting in trouble with the officers for not doing what they say, since they can be real jerks. Otherwise, he hasn't seen more than a couple fights in all the years he has been in. Mine has been in 5 times.

Oh shoot, I forgot. In county jail, they have to sit in a " day room", with everyone, and watch whatever the CO's put on the TV, or sometimes some of the guys get to pick. Usually it isn't what my fiance wanted to watch. And you can't hear it anyway because it is loud. The men in there are so rude and loud, he couldn't stand it.

In PRISON, you can have someone purchase your own tv, and you can sit on your bed, at specified times you can be in your rooms, or later at night and watch whatever you want, with headphones or ear buds. So you can block out the other guys there and enjoy what you want to watch. Mine had a private room for awhile when he had one job. It was like his tiny apartment/ place to be away from that world. He did and still does craft projects that he actually sells them for 100 dollars out here. And they can sell what they make in the visitor room. In county jails you do NOTHING all day. And so tempers flare up.

In prison, they can be outside a lot. They sometimes have gyms and workout rooms. They can take some volunteer classes that will help them get jobs when out, they can meet with a person who comes in to help them find jobs later when home. Prison has more opportunities than you would think. Mine is so busy right now, working in the kitchen, it is making his time go faster. He feels useful for the first time in a long time. In reality Alex would be better off in a prison vs jail.

The only drawback is if it is far away for you to go see him. The longest drive I had was 2 and a half hours. That was awful, but I did it for way over a year, after he had been transferred from a place that was 6 hours away and I couldn't go anyway because we aren't married or related. Even though we had been together at that time at least 12 years.

Don't be scared. Mine never got beat up by inmates. He had a problem with a guard that did though. Another story for another time. Mostly the guards in prison are lazy, and do nothing. Oh a few do have power trips and get rude and order them to do stupid things. But neither my son or fiance ever had real problems in prison.

He has taken computer classes, anger management classes, writing classes, and had opportunities to volunteer to help men who were studying for their GED. He liked that. He actually taught a person to read, that was in his 50's. You can find things to keep busy in the prison's. Not in jail. Jail is worse because they just get up, mull around the day room all day, listen to loud, idiots, and eat, and sleep. That's about it.

Stardreamerar,

With a relatively short sentence such as 27 months or so, he would be wise to take the deal. Twenty seven months is not a very long time. Since he has a short sentence, he will be shipped to a minimum security prison or lower---maybe even work release or a work camp----and nobody gets hurt at a minimum security prison.

The medium security prisons is where all the bad guys are with the stabbings, getting hit in the head with the lock in the sock routine, or just getting beat down. He will never encounter that.

Additionally, with a 27 month sentence, I assume he does not have a violent crime. As a result, he should receive some good time credits, so he will not serve 27 months. Some DOCs give a one-for-one good days credit, which would cut that 27 months to 13 months.

Send me a PM with his charge and the state and I can tell you for sure.

He would be foolish to take this to trial with only 27 months. As I will explain, if he did take these charges to trial, they would try him on each and every charge, and if found guilty, they would stack the charges and he could wind up with five or six years.

Going to trial instead of pleading out is a colossal roll of the dice. Yes, a defendant can possibly win an outright acquittal, but trials are so unpredictable that, if there is any evidence at all against the defendant, he or she would be better served to plead.

Here are some of the reasons a trial can become a train wreck-----

1) Most jurors have no idea of our criminal justice system, and while they have heard that a defendant is "innocent until proven guilty" many do not conduct themselves as if they believe it. I have had jurors tell me that "I knew he HAD to be guilty of SOMETHING or he would not be in the courtroom being prosecuted." It is difficult to overcome ignorance like that.

2) Most jurors have no idea of the concept of "reasonable doubt" when a case goes to jury trial. Many mistakenly think reasonable doubt means a preponderance of evidence. As a result, they will weigh the facts and if there are three facts that show innocence and three facts that show guilt, they will convict. THAT IS NOT REASONABLE DOUBT.

3) Many jurors are still conservative folks who tend to think that police will not lie or perjure themselves at a trial. NOT THE POLICE !!!! "They are our friends," they will say. "They are here to protect us," they will say. Folks, Andy Griffith of Mayberry died off long ago. Cops are good liars, especially if they know they cannot get caught.

4) If a person is convicted at trial, the DA will throw the book at him. Here is how they do it. Let's say I have four counts of armed robbery, and each count carries 10 years. The DA will come at me with a plea and say "REW, we will drop all the charges except one charge, if you will plead guilty to one count of armed robbery for 10 years. But if you decide to go to trial and are found guilty, I will try you on ALL four counts and ask the judge to run the charges consecutively----one after the other. This would mean a 40 year sentence for armed robbery.

Basically, this is what I call "judicial blackmail." The DA knows damn well a defendant cannot risk a 40 year sentence by going to trial, so he knows he will plead. As a result, to a great extent, the DA will then have the upper hand in plea negotiations with the defense attorney.

In essence, the defendant is penalized for exercising his Constitutional right to go to trial. The Sixth Amendment gives a defendant that right, but the DA makes it so precarious that no defendant will attempt a trial.

Going to trial is a huge risk. If an innocent person is so set in his ways and just refuses to plead to something he did not do---as I did---there is hell to pay if he loses at trial.

The conviction rate on the state level is close to 90%, while the feds rarely lose a case. More than 95% of the federal cases which go to trail end up with convicitons.

Fair or not, this is how the system works. This is why we do not have a "justice" system, but a "legal" system.

Guilt, innocence, or justice has nothing to do with it.

Our American criminal justice system was not set up for acquittals, but convictions.

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