Its there way of messing with them i hate to say it. It was the same hear when D was in the MAP (reception ) he said there evening meal was at 3.30pm by about 7 he was hungry again so they tryed to hold a bit of food back. It was better when he was moved to a normal prison.

3 AM??? Who eats at 3 AM? And why would they want to wake the whole place up that time of day? Seems a bit crazy. Never has mine had those ridiculous times to eat. Yes, that is definitely another way they mess with them, and again, to what purpose but to get them angrier.

I have always thought that prisons are not there to rehabilitate but to make sure these people leave prison angrier, or worse than when they got in. It assures the prisons they will come back. Job security for everyone in that wonderful thing they call the CORRECTIONS departments and JUSTICE system.

That is awful.

Mine still complains he don't get enough food. One hot dog and ten french fries some days, for dinner. What grown man can live on that. It is a way they can also make money on them because they have to order food from canteen and the prison's do get a percentage of what they buy. But yours can't even do that yet.

Yeh, that's what I was afraid of, was hoping it was for their safety but know they don't give a care about that!! And how exactly does being locked in a cell 99% of the time help to rehabilitate ?!? Oh yeah, it doesn't!!!
Praying he gets moved...SOON!!!

There have been studies against solitary confinement, which that basically is. It does something to them psychologically. Mine had Assessment and Evaluation period at another prison. It was locked up in a cell 23.5 hours a day if not all day. A shower every 3 -5 days. Fed in the cell sometimes, other times they got out to eat for a few minutes. He just slept all the time, and said he cried a lot. It seems they are trying to break them psychologically. Some can't take it, others can. It is a hard thing to hear.

They said in this study that any average person would have problems dealing with it, but people with previous psychological problems really would end up with long term effects.

Mine can't stand being home long after he gets out. Has to be gone, doing something, anything. I know it's because of the life they live in there, so deprived of normalcy.

It doesn't deter them from doing anything wrong again, it pretty much pushes some of them to lash out to show whoever that they are free now and CAN do what they want, when they want.

I believe the ACLU has been trying to push the government to abolish solitary confinement except for extreme cases, where the person is totally awful. Nothing still happens and they are a powerful group.

I guess we will probably never know completely what they go through in there. Mine only tells me a portion of what happens. He shuts me out of many things. And that happens when he gets out too. He gets tense, won't talk to me, either sleeps, or vanishes for a few days. Usually back to bars and strangers who don't know him, that don't judge him, or try to tell him he is acting in a way that is not good. He don't want to be told ANYTHING. That is somewhat of his nature, brought on from an abusive step dad, but somewhat from being manic depressive/bipolar for years, which the prison is not addressing.

I hope that when he is in treatment they do something this time about that, but 10 out of 10 that were in his group last time for treatment are back in prison right now. None succeeded in staying sober. Tells you something about how their treatment program works.

One poor guy went out last time and had nowhere to live. Was homeless. The prison knew that he would be when he released him, and his caseworker did nothing to help find him a place to live. My guy just don't know how lucky he is to have me here time and time again, while that guy had nothing. I think he got himself in trouble on purpose to have a place to stay. Sad.

I actually took the criminal justice classes at a college, am halfway through to the degree, but can't get anymore loans. It was to read and learn how they operate and what they can and can't do.

Pretty much they can do whatever they want. And one chapter said that prison's are an INDUSTRY... a money making business. Oh yes they are.

The food they feed them is inadequate nutritionally. They feed them a majority of it with soy products. Soy in small quantities is ok. In excessive amounts is bad for your health. It can do many things like cause damage to major organs. There was a group of people in I believe it is Florida or Texas that had been in prison that are suing them for all their medical conditions brought on by the food they had to eat in prison. You can find the articles about it online.

This is going to scare you, but when you have a person you love in prison you have to become aware of everything, in case you have to fight for them. Sometimes there are things you can do, they think we don't know what they can get away with and what they can't. Once they know, then sometimes parts of it change.

Mine has several food allergies. They were refusing to give him his special diet. Nothing he said to the doctor, staff etc was helping. So using the fact they read our letters to them, I found a statute in the Constitution about their rights as a prisoner, their rights to adequate medical treatment and what can be done if they do not follow those laws. Wa la... they read it, and he got his diet he needed, and tests done for his health issues. Of course they never admitted why things changed.

Each state varies with the time they serve the meals in the chow hall, but most prisons use a time schedule similar to this-----

7 AM---Breakfast.

12 Noon---Lunch

5 PM----Dinner.

They serve breakfast at 7 AM because everyone reports to work at 8 AM---except those working in the kitchen---and the work crews at a minimum have to eat early to get out on the road.

Lunch is served at noon, as that is when all the employees eat, and noon is obviously a proper time.

The serve dinner at 5 PM because many people who have jobs within the prison do not get off work until around 4 PM.

That is the procedure used regarding meals at every prison I was ever at or heard of.

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Those hours, or anywhere even close to that, sound more reasonable. But what they are doing where my son is, is ridiculous!!!

My daughter's meal times are 6:30, 11 and 4:30pm


WhatAJoke~ your son's meal times are ridiculous.

I would bet a good portion of the guys don't bother to go eat at 3 a.m. in the morning. Who wants to get up that early, and start their day. Sure would save the prison money if they can be guaranteed they don't need to make that much food.

Son says you get used to waking up to eat & then go back to sleep. And really, what are they feeding them at 3am? Cuz I highly doubt that's it's a freshly made breakfast at that time of the NIGHT!! And if some aren't eating at 3 am for breakfast, then it's sure a long time between 'supper' at 3pm the day before & 'lunch' at 9 am!! CRAZY!!!

That's shameful. I'm sorry to hear it. 3 a.m. is ridiculous! And they must be starving by bedtime. Ugh!!

My partner was in reception for more than three months. It was the longest anyone has ever been held in the reception facility where he was, we found out. It was unbelievably frustrating, but, it turned out well, because they were assessing him for a special program which cut his sentence by many months. He's out now, on parole.

I hope things move forward quickly for your son.

Does he work in the kitchen or food service?

I do know that the guys who work in the chow hall leave very, very early, around 3 AM, and when they first arrive to work they eat their breakfast.

Other than that, I have never heard of them serving breakfast at 3 AM.

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No, he is in reception & classification for 43 days & to my knowledge , not allowed to work since they were locked in cells 99% of time.

But on a good note, I was notified that he was moved to a highly desired min facility yesterday!! And we were aware that wait was longer because of this. So, hoping this is much more positive for him! Maybe they will even eat at 'normal' times! ;-)

WhataJoke,

You, your son, and your family hit the jackpot when they placed him at a minimum security level facility.

He does NOT want to go to a medium security prison, as the other inmates there are more violent and much harder convicts than those at a lower security level.

He has absolutely nothing to worry about unless he does something very stupid like snitch on someone or get into debt and unable to pay.

Thought I would ease your mind so you can sleep better at night.

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PS His meal times will be more normal here.

Thank you & everyone for your responses!! Now to figure out when I will finally get to see & talk to him!!