Thank you Lydia I started at 14 and it took me until 38. But it does not have to be this way. I never knew of the 12 steps until I was 30 I have been pronounced dead twice. Now 19 years in to recovery I have found out it was not what I was using but why. I am higher on life than any drug and believe me its been hard sometimes. Right now I have major health issues and we are facing foreclouser but I never want to go back to the drugs I think it through still to this day. from the start how good it would feel to the end, in a coma , on the streets, and my brother dead in a gutter. It never gets better.

God bless the addict they are the walking dead but the dead can live again, and miracles still happen every day.

My daughter used it to get thru the withdrawals 3-5 days. The first time she quit she detoxed on my couch cold turkey. I held her while she cried, ran her a warm bath, forced water and vitamins in her. All the while torn between easing her pain and letting her suffer to teach her a lesson. The second time I was willing to do anything for her since she was agreeing to quitting. We tried to get Suboxone from a Dr. but apparently, it takes special licensing to prescribe it and to find a doc that will give it to you is next to impossible here in Oregon. I never considered that she may not have felt what I felt. Thanks for bringing up that point.

My brother was on Methadone for 20+ years from the VA
He used while taking it and died in 01.
I think the shit is useless and most addicts do also. It may work for a very few but I dont know or heard of anyone who it did.
It's harder to kick than heroin also. they dont give suboxone or methadone in jail.

he was on suboxone for a month. i have never done drugs so i dont know how long it takes to work. after being on the suboxone for a month he started using drugs again and is now in prison. i wish you all the best! hugs...

Thank you for all your comments. I'm realizing this is just a crutch for the oxy & probably won't work. I also believe in doing things the old fashion way. It's not looking good for them. They say they have counseling at the center, but I wonder how much. I feel this center(as all centers probably) are out for the suboxone money & don't care if the addict ever gets free of drugs.
I have insisted they go to AA in our town but they feel this is enough-twice a week.
Does anyone know anything about vitamins to replenish the body? Or does this help?
I am having trouble putting myself first-I know I need to do this but can't right now. I start back with classes next week, so will have to put my son on the backburner.
My husband won't allow them to move back here unless they go by our rules--they won't like that so hopefully won't ask. I've really thought about letting them stay in our garage if it comes to it--even though it's 0 here right now. Better than being homeless-but still gotta do the rules.
Thank you all again.
xo

Rach, I'm sorry to hear about your husband. My thoughts & prayers are with you.
xo

I just lost my son from an accidental overdose of methadone & valium. He and his wife had been going to a methadone clinic in another town for about a year and a half, then they started seeing a doctor in our town and her program was supposed to be a 5 week suboxan program. That turned out to be the last 18 months before his death in August '09. I don't know what really happened with this doctor but she quit treating my son about a month before his death. I would love to find out what happened for her to drop him knowing his situation with pills. I know my son was trying to get off the drugs because the weekend before his death, I told him I had been having bad feelings. He said "Mama, I have not had anything and that is why I have been having so many leg cramps from the withdrawal". Just a few days later he was gone.

Jan I am so sorry. Lost my brother also to a mixture of Methadone and Oxycontin . I still have horrible back and leg pains and its been 19 years.

What a waste again my condolences

Oh Jan, I do not even have words to express my sadness for you. It's a Mothers worse nightmare, Iff you need to talk I am here I have no answers but I can love you and send prayers.

Jan, I am so sorry to read this. Yes, it is a mother's worst nightmare. You will always wonder why the doctor dropped him-strange. I'm just so sorry. My thoughts & prayers are with you.
Love & hugs

tinker, I'm so sorry about your brother. It's heartbreaking when we lose a loved one.
My thoughts & prayers are with you.
Love & hugs

I haven't talked to my son all week, then yesterday he calls saying he needs to go to the suboxone clinic & needed money. I made a comment he should've thought about that before he decided not to go to work & lose his job..he got mad & hung up. I try not to let that get me down, but it does. Things were looking up for them with this job--he had hopes of getting off the sub & now I wonder where that will fall. I know it's all in his hands & he is in control but here I am in the early morning & can't sleep for thinking about him.

This is when you have to put him in God's Hands

Since your son is 28 he needs to take responsiblity for himself and his addiction. If Suboxone helps him so be it, it can't be any worst then using drugs. Sometimes being old school can make you not see new ways of helping the addict. There is more to addiction then AA. Smart recovery, Stantion Peale, CRAFT to name a few.
I used to stay up couldn't sleep because I was worring about my addict. Then one day I realized his addiction is completely out of my control, if he used there wasn't anything I could do. I was wasting time looking for him and eventually he would call or show up. So I started sleeping and if he called in the middle of night I wouldn't answer. Learning to detach with love was the best thing for me I ever did.
Good luck.

I have a question. It may seem simple for some but I can't seem to get what detach with love means.
As a parent we have always loved ,but how you detach when you know your child may die?