One last comment on this KILT thing....we recently watched the movie ROB ROY...and I thought LIAM NEESON was pretty darned HOT in that kilt!

This post that drtexdi started has gone in some strange directions. Big girl panties on WTconfused and men wearing frumpy house dresses to what underwear we are not wearing and now on to kilts. Even though the topic was serious I love the way this has gone in so many directions.

Okay....I am not quite done with the KILT thing! Here is a song ya'll gotta listen to ...it is good for a laugh....they used to play it on the Country music station in Wyoming...a tad raunchy....but good fun!
http://youtu.be/VoUV5d09JZw

WTconfused......okay since you have no profile pic or pics of any sort I vote a picture of said kilt and legs!!!! ;o)
inquiring minds wanna know! LOL!!!

OK, I need to learn a few new computer tricks, like posting photos. And I will post an explination or story about the Kilt in the future as a journel entry (don't let me forget). Thank You all for helping me get over a very rough week. It may still be a bit windy but the sun is going to shine today!

WT = You take the picture and any one of us will happily TALK YOU THROUGH the process of getting it posted here! LOL! THIS I want to see!

I am 100% certain that Mandatory marriage counseling every 5 years would have saved my marriage...Both my ex and I would agree on that.

But that being said..I think society is changing and we can't stop it...no way, no how...so what is the answer? Facing what is, how our society is evolving and develop functional ways to manage our lives in light of these changes.

I do believe that if our government is who is marrying us, they have a responsibility to protect the institution with all the knowledge and research out there to support it, why not provide access to free counseling every 5 years...money I guess? But it would save money in the long run right? Hmmmm, not a bad idea...I am going to look into this, maybe we can change things? Are there groups/forums we could support for this type of program?

I'm new here by the way found you all on the Breakup and Divorce group.

hotslp - The reason why my county has instituted the MANDATORY pre-marital counseling is in an attempt to REDUCE the divorce rate here. For some odd reason, this "once agricultural turned bedroom community" has the highest rate of divorce in the whole state! Maybe it's the commuting? Who knows.

If a government doesn't administer it, then the couple themselves should make a COMMITMENT to see a marriage counselor and/or attend a MARRIAGE RETREAT once a year or every five years if such a thing is available. Most of the larger churches around here sponsor those kinds of retreat on a yearly basis.

I know for a fact, however, that my X would have never gone to any of that stuff. It requires looking inward, and that's something he NEVER wanted to do. It was so much easier to point his finger and play the "
Blame Game".

Trisha: I'm not quite sure what subject we're on either!!!

But I'll start with WTconfused: My vote is on legs! Do be careful of the wind...otherwise, you'll end up like the famous picture of Marilyn Monroe !!!!

I'm beet red thinking about it..... lol.

Can you guys tell I've been too busy the last couple of days and haven't read? First the serious stuff: Trisha, unfortunately I was referring to my past marriage so I was not thinking clearly. It's been a tough week. I honestly don't know when and if I will think about future marriage but I don't think I would go into it without couples counseling.

Now for the laughs, Diane can tell you that I was literally laughing out loud when she called. You guys are the best! I can honestly say, I have found this to be the most entertaining thing of my week. WT, I can't wait to read why you have a kilt and tobywinn, the visual you gave me was hilarious. In fact, this discussion has been FULL of very interesting (comedic) visuals!

drtexdi - So glad we made you laugh! A sense of humor will get you through just about anything and I'm glad yours is still intact!

This is what I enjoy MOST about being part of this group -- how we can find humor in even the most difficult of subjects and how we get into this friendly banter with each other.

Have a great weekend, my friend, and STAY TUNED!

Yes drtexdi, it seemse that there is an alarming number of long marriages that are ending for the same or similar reasons. It is so, very shocking! I know several couples that have were together while I was going through divorce and now are also divorced. What is going on?

And I do want to welcome you Diane - even though I know how hard this all is for you right now. It takes time to heal from such a wound. But as many of us know, it helps to hear the accounts of what other people have had to deal with and how they resolved important issues and eventually moved on. I think you will find this group very helpful. My prayers and thoughts are with you! Big Hugs to you!!!

I agree- I was shocked when I realized how many couples get divorced after 20 + years together--and I thought foolishly I was the only one!! Sad to say, it was a relief and a pity to find out I wasn't alone at all. Both my first husbands parents and my parents have both been married over 40 years. Nobody else in either of our families had divorced, except for his youngest brother, after 9 years and being married to a drunk. But, I do think my husband always thought his mother had cheated on his father...it's curious how maybe that helped shape his attitude, or maybe it had nothing to do with it. The main thing is, I firmly believe he thought he could just cheat and get away with it FOREVER and that I would never divorce him. But I did.:)