no invisible - you're not a waste - I fight that feeling AALL THE TIME - its not True!

fight that lie!

How can it be a lie when it's always in my head?

Honey the devil has a strong hold on you because you are none of those negative things that you are calling yourself. Please fight that devil, okay? Hugs honey

But what if I don't believe in the devil or god

Maybe you should start believing. That could be your answer..

Invisible, I wanted you to know that you are not "invisible" to me. You were one of the first individuals to welcome me here and that meant so much to me. You made a positive impact in my life, and I hope you know ho special that is. I don't think you are any of those negative things you believe about yourself. And no, I do not believe some devil is making you believe them either.

Folks, I understand you have good intentions. But I'm not sure pushing religious beliefs on someone who is feeling down is such a good idea, telling them they have the devil in them, ect. If someone does not believe in god or the devil, then that is their choice. This group is about support, and I certainly hope this isn't a place where people are going to presure folks into their religious beliefs, or tell me I have the devil in me if i express my feelings or seek support. You never know what someone has been through. I know for me personally, that would be a big trigger for me and make me feel very unwelcome and uncomfortable.

i'm sending you hugs and love, Invisible.

I apologize if I came off harsh. I mean no disrespect to anyone's religious beliefs. And I understand religion can be a very beneficial part of healing. I certainly mean no disrespect to anyone or their beliefs. I had a really strong trigger moment when I read this post and saw the part about the devil causing negative thoughts. I had relatives who very literally tried to "beat" and "scream" the devil out of me because they believed the devil was causing my depression. So it brought back some really difficult memories for me. I'm very sorry if I offended anyone. It wasn't intentional.

I used to believe in god and heaven but I used to pray day and night up till I was about 27 then realized it did me no good my family embers still got sick, people still bullied me, I still felt all alone and I see all the suffering in the world. Everyone has a right to there beliefs and I thank u all for your thoughts.

Invisible that's a pretty good line about nit taking up space here given your screen name.
Right there you made me chuckle, that's a bonus for me thanks.
I have the same exact crap in my head. Plus a couple dozen other people on here. So that tells me the common denominator is this damn depression bs. Yes, i named it correctly it is bs.
We are an awesome group of people on here. I wish we could all spend Christmas in a log house together!
So how is it we see the goodness in one another and not ourselves?
Because that is the very nature of this - it's the way we think. We are incredibly harsh on ourselves.
Try listing your qualities or good things you've done and you'll be tongue tied. But in REALITY we have contributed big-time we just can't see it.
I enjoy you on here and hope you can challenge this blasted thinking of ours and recognize your good points.
The devil and God deal....well that's individual but for me I believe - i've had some pretty amazing answers to prayer. The devil to me is simply an evil force that condemns. I think that is what people are referring to. It's giving a "face" to that voice that chews us up like a garb-orator. Many people refer to "it" as the black dogs. It's recognizing that you have an enemy - that persistent condemning nature. Why some of us have it? Childhood, genetics, environment, brain chemistry, allergies! Hell, idk. But it's the shits and we are all in it together here and I personally find that somewhat comforting to not be alone.
All the best....and I can see u, ur not invisible!

Sweetheart,

I Am So Sorry That You Are In So Much Pain.
I Think You Are Incredibly Strong. Here You Are Battling TWO Illnesses.
Depression Is The World's Biggest Liar. It Tells Us Things That Just Are Not True.
Sweetheart, You Are NOT A Lunatic!
You Are NOT A Failure!
You Are NOT A Loser!
I Think You Are A Beautiful Wonderful Amazing Person

((((((((HUGS)))))))) And Love To You
Please, PLEASE Don't Give Up.

Thank you, I have never heard anyone say that they enjoy my presence, I love you all and believe you guys are the strongest and most compassionate people., its just sonhard to want to keep going I always mess up and never get anywhere

We Love You Too Honey

((((((((HUGS))))))))))

I feel done.

Please stop saying that you are a waste of space because you ARE NOT! You are the only one that believes that, no-one else. The devil is telling you so many lies, please stop listening, okay? And You do not deserve cancer, ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hugs.