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Dennis
Carbon Dioxide Retention and COPD
Tuesday, Febuary 5, 2013
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Carbon Dioxide (CO2) rentention is something that can occur in people with moderate to severe COPD. Normal arterial CO2 range is from 35-45 mmHg. CO2 becomes an acid in the blood, and can cause the bloods pH to change when the levels of CO2 change. As we know, COPD is usually a slowly progressing lung disease. When lung function declines over time, this normal range of CO2 may rise. When it happens slowly, the kidneys retain bicarbonate to keep the pH of the blood from becoming too acidic. All organs in the body will suffer if the blood pH is out of range. Some people with COPD can have a CO2 level of 60mmHg or higher, but as long as this rise occures over time, the kidneys are able to compensate, and make sure the pH of the blood does not drop (become more acidic). Even though the carbon dioxide level is higher than normal, the kidneys have compensated, keeping the blood pH in normal range. On the other hand, if the carbon dioxide level rises quickly, the kidneys do not have time to compensate, and the pH of the blood will drop (acute respiratory failure). This can be serious, and even life-threatening. There is some concern about using higher levels of oxygen in people who are CO2 retainers. There are some that feel that when oxygen levels in the blood are too high, the stimulus to breathe may be affected in people who already have higher levels of CO2. Other experts dispute this claim. The bottom line for me is that oxygen should be treated just like any other drug, using only the lowest level that will get the desired results. On occasion, people with COPD will need higher levels (usually closely monitored in the hospital), but the need should be re-assessed on a regular basis.
Both Dennis and Grannie have good comments. The only way to find out if you are retaining co2 is to have your doctor order you an arterial blood gas test. There may be other ways doctors have to determine it, but this way you would know your number. \
Grannie thank you for that article. You know doctors never tell you everything unless you ask. Well, Dr. Bothel had me scared silly because he said I was a co2 retainer, and explained what that meant...Dr. Sanchez said my co2 is not good, but all right, it was 32, and according to your comment, was in normal range?
when my pulm did a PFT test on me he had me inhale some gas & then tested it & he commented that the gas didn't "dissapate" out of my lungs.
dennis; in your links how to read the test is that the part on the PFT test that says DLCO?
(i learn so much when others ask good questions :)
Hope this helps...
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Dennis
my fev 1 is 92%
but my dlco is 40
my pulm has quit doing PFT tests any more & just does HRCT (which shows all my aveoli are big holes) because he says PFT with me is "misleading"
also is the higher fev 1 because i have "hyperinflated lungs"?-
The measurements under the (sometimes several) "best" columns for the spirographs use 2 numbers - volume of air in liters (for example your 1.17) and the next number is a percentage of what they thought it should be (predicted). In your case it was 45% or a little less that half of what they expect for an FEV1 reading.
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Dennis
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The reason was my first doctor insisted my SOB was lack of oxygen and made me use it 24/7 the first year n a bit.....
I still get very SOB but PLB is the only way to fix it...
I mean mine is 29 or somewhere in there, and all those other things I have no clue what you mean, but I thought fevi was the amount of air you breathed out, so if she can do 92% that is almost perfect,,,what am I missing? Hi Gwapo, could to see you commenting...
Karen
interesting to see the HRCT and "inside my lings" (he shows me & explains & i even get my own cd of it to look at on my computer).
i have those PFT readings, but to look "inside" my lungs with the HRCT those "grape bunches of avioli" that they show in pics---well i don't have a "bunch" at each, i just have 5cm "holes"
and because of the last dr that didn't take care of me in a HUGE exacerbation---the HRCT now shows the bottom of my lungs are nothing but scar tissue (pulmonary fibrosis)
so i guess i have these holes for avioli, and the holes don't "pass" the 02 thru to my blood?
i also was always very physically fit so i wonder if i just have bigger inhale/exhale abilities, but little transfers to my blood.
that is why i keep my excercise up, i need to keep that diaphram working as good as i can :)
(sometimes i feel like a rat being studied by both my PCP & Pulm because they both say, "i have an interesting case"---maybe they'll work harder to keep me going as long as possible so they can study me longer LOL
(if you want to get really weird, my "resting pulse" (sitting around) is around 52 ---of course if i get up & move that goes super high as my 02 goes super low)
sorry, i didn't mean to take over the discussion with "my stuff", but it just goes how we can all have the "same" disease, yet be so different. and i thought explaining "the grape bunches" we see in pics i get to see with HRCT....has anyone else had an HRTC?